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Going For The One is fine; Wind & Wuthering is the last but certainly not least in a streak of Genesis albums that are among the most significant musical accomplishments I've had the pleasure of hearing in my life
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Re: Colored lines on the Going for the One album cover

I've always thought the 5 lines represent the 5 members of Yes. If you flip your tri-fold cover over, take a look at the 5 band-member portraits. While the lines pass over and go behind more than one portrait, each line "best represents" one portrait exclusively.  (Disclaimer: I was not using any "enlightening substances" when arriving at the following theory.)

ORANGE: passes over Alan White's portrait exclusively.
BLUE/WHITE: passes over Jon Anderson's portrait (top right corner).
PALE YELLOW: passes over Steve Howe's portrait exclusively.
RED: only passes over Chris Squire's portrait.
GREEN: all other colors are taken, so this one goes to Rick Wakeman.

Now you've heard everything right? This album's in my All-Time Top 10, and I've probably spent a little too much time with it! 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I love the conspiracy theory that it was Patrick Moraz on the cover LOL

Ha!...I always thought that too!
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^ Yes, I got that, and it's understandable, given the b*tt-naked fellow in front row! Some people can't take seriously a cover with a planet blowing off and a spaceship with some sort of sails either, but still, there's more than a joke there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2025 at 06:46
^ maybe the cover has got a deep message, or maybe not, but either way i can't take that cover seriously. 
(hence my LOL emoticon in my post above)
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover... ConfusedLOL


^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;)

Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone!

What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.


Constructing on that perspective, to which I agree, I'd say that the key point to be explained in this cover is nudity itself. That seems to follow the lead of Vitruvio. This is not A man, but MAN as archetype, stripped of individual traits, like clothes:



But in GFTO, man doesn't show face or genitals, nor extends arms or legs up to fill the perfect pythagorean figures illustrating Protagoras dictum "Man is the measure of all things". More likely, man just stands anonymous and constrained by asymmetrical lines largely exceeding in size, not measuring, but rather being measured by things. Those changes are perhaps more important than the initial resemblance, so Huxley's novel comes rapidly to mind.
Too much going on, that makes it hard to grasp, and such an interesting symbol.

Edited by Heart of the Matter - January 10 2025 at 06:44
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Wind and Wuthering gets the nod, though I like both.
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I love the conspiracy theory that it was Patrick Moraz on the cover LOL
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I always thought that GFTO would have sold more if it wasn't for the album cover. 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover... ConfusedLOL


^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;)

Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone!

What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.

I don't think I ever thought it through to this level but I agree that I've always got this impression from it, man confronted by hyper modernity. I think the lines always gave me the impression that he was plotting his way to navigate the world. How he we going to get to, as it were, the one. Whatever that is.
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GFTO for me, I always loved "Wondrous Stories!"   A bit sappy, true, but I love it anyway!

They are both really rather close in my opinion - each has some bombastic symphonic prog as well as lighter moments (and a few low points). 

So, my vote goes to GFTO, by a smidgeon.  




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2025 at 12:51
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover... ConfusedLOL


^ Overthinking or underthinking this, probably both... If it was prehistoric man, or ancestors of man, looking at modern skyscrapers, I would get that in a sort of 2001: A Space Odyssey bone turns into space station way. It's providing contrast. It might be saying something about man is his natural state versus man outside of nature.   Artificiality. Innocence vs. artifice. The lines say something of perspective and geometrical form. A certain symmetry. I do think it;s trying to say something about the human condition and how we might seem to incongruously fit into this man-made world. man is small and naked in this built up world. The figure himself looks artificial due to the musculature -- it's an idealised form. I notice Rush kind of did the same buff naked man thing instead of using gangly Geddy Lee as the model. In Guru Guru's Hinten I think they used an actual photo of a band member's bottom (the drummer). I don't think that's a portrait of Jon Anderson's rearside anyway. But if it is I would say that those buns of steel vids paid off! :P ;)

Happy "International Let's Go to Work Naked Day" everyone!

What It first made me think of (back in the 80s), I now recall, is Brave New World. It's like the savage meets this modern world of progress. But in that novel the savage was the one less comfortable getting nude (and frisky) and he would quote Shakespeare ("O brave new world, that has such people in’t”). It's the naked man witnessing modernity, but to me he looks as artificial as the buildings.

Edited by Logan - January 09 2025 at 12:59
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^ I've never understood what's going on in that cover... ConfusedLOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You guys just hate Yes. Tongue

Who hates Yes here?! Confused
it's a tie for now. Very tight poll. Smile



being tongue-in-cheek (as opposed to tongue-in-cheeks -- very tight, maybe too tight).



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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You guys just hate Yes. Tongue
Who hates Yes here?! Confused
it's a tie for now. Very tight poll. Smile


Edited by Cristi - January 09 2025 at 12:09
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You guys just hate Yes. Tongue
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Wind & Wuthering of Genesis.
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For me it's going for the one by a tiny bit. I consider awaken to be one of the ten best Yes tracks of all time. W&W doesn't really have anything quite on that level imo.
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