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richardh
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Posted: November 12 2024 at 09:53 |
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Hard to argue with that and then you have Gentle Giant, PFM, Banco and Le Orme also putting out multiple great albums in that year. Have you checked out the recent reissue on CD and vinyl of Aphrodite's Child - 666? It's expensive but so worth it
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It's 1972 for me all the way, the reasons: Yes - Close to the Edge Jethro Tull - TAAB Tangerine Dream - Zeit Genesis - Foxtrot Aphrodite's Child - 666 ELP - Trilogy < height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
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Difficult to say. Overall from 71 to 73 was the golden years, with most of the classics. Yet I feel 75 is rather overlooked, with some of my very favourites like Wish you Were Here, Arthur, Ommadawn, the 5 seasons from Harmonium, coming from that year.
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Hi, That is such an awesome listing and very inspiring ... it really shows what we were listening to in those days, and how varied it all was. It really shows how great the independent FM radio in America was so important to what we came to consider as progressive and prog in time ... I keep saying that it is impossible to think of a "favorite" when you come up against a huge list like this ... but sadly, I'm not sure the Internet folks can relate to it much ... I have my "favorites", however, I can't take them away from everything else ... put on Le Sacre du Printemps, and the list kinda falls apart! Put on Nilsson and Tebaldi in Turandot and so much of the lists fall apart ... but ... some amazing and incredible memories at the juncture of meeting new music in your mind!
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And yes, determining hi-fi vs lo-fi is very subjective. |
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Who the heck told you that? What is your source (re no good synths before mid 74)? Also, I think there's plenty of great sounding albums by the late 70s. I would say by the early 70s it got better (not late). Also, one of the best sounding albums ever made came out in the 60s. Can you guess which one?
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I voted 1973 because, within the greater tapestry of progressive music, from "Tubular Bells" to "Birds of Fire," that year stands out as a veritable zenith, where its most illustrious bands reached their creative apogee and progressive music gained commercial exposure without sacrificing its artistic sensibility. Both their vast artistic approaches and the improvements in recording technique contributed to the 1973 albums' superb sound quality.
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But it's not just the synths. The whole craft of mixing and recording music IMO got better by the late 70s. Edited by Hrychu - September 19 2024 at 03:42 |
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1973. King Crimson's "Larks Tongues in Aspic" seals the deal for me.
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of lesser interest for the topic of this thread. Edited by Sean Trane - September 19 2024 at 03:02 |
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I voted arbitrarily 1971, because it needed help. Gnosis 2000 being temporaily out, I couldn't really check my cumulative ratings to see which year is actually better.
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I consider 2023 the greatest prog year since the 70s...with a 73 sweet spot. Don't get me wrong, 2023 does not top the 71-74 period.
According to PA ratings, 2023 has 70 albums that average 4.00 or higher. Even when factoring in recency bias, 2023 is impressive. The year 2024 has 56 albums and 2022 has 46 albums that average 4.00 or higher. That said, PA's album rating system is not why I put forth 2023. I subjectively believe 2023 is the best prog-year since the 70s. I added the PA ratings as objective evidence to support my subjective claim. Subjectively...your mileage may vary. Different strokes for different folks.
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If looking at the number of Progressive Rock releases each year, according to RYM's statistics they were about: 1971 - 470 1972 - 530 1973 - 470 1974 - 400 1975 - 470 1976 - 450 ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ )
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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richardh
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For synths I've never heard anything better than Gary Numan's Replicas album (1979) and also the single Cars by him. I've also always preferred the synths sounds that Vangelis and Tangerine Dream were getting around 1977-1983 more than any other era. The theme music for Stranger Things was also a nod to that era I think.
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The synths on Brain Salad Surgery (73), Relayer and Lamb (both 74) all sound fine to me and very advanced for when they were recorded. You could even go back a little earlier. However, I will say that I always found it unfortunate that prog started to die out around 77/78 because the synth sounds happening at time (which were still developing as you implied) would have fit right in with prog. You can hear it in a lot of new wave stuff. Blondie's "heart of glass" is a good example. Listen to the synth on that.
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^indeed
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All great years!
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It's also my (audiophile) experience that the sound quality in the second half of the '70s was the best one. |
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Well, aside from the statistics, I still think the best period for prog in the so called classic era, strictly production-wise was 1975-1981 due to the advancement in synthesizers and recording technology. No longer was quality of the majority of recorded music (especially outside of the UK and US) brought down by the gritty "undercoked" sonics. From that point on, albums would sound much more defined and fat. In addition to that, a lot of prog bands had gotten equipped with new syntheziers, which resulted in richer and more colorful arrangements (take Rush or Kaipa for example).
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