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MortSahlFan
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Critical Race Theory is actually critical theory from the Frankfurt School. And yes, this "two sides" is illogical.. Guilt by association seems to work.
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Words such as "woke" and "cancel culture" and "critical race theory" have been weaponized by the outrage industry. The outrage industry is alive and getting more profitable with every new controversy they stir up. They prey on the innate human desire to choose sides.
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#metoo
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I am outraged at the way people get outraged by my outrage.
It's outrageous. |
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It's hard to follow this thread because many have different definitions
of political terminology. I would substitute the word "authoritative"
in a few instances, but I really think the entire thing is about
in-group vs. out-group.
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^ Oh... is that "what you said", well I'm so sorry for having misunderstood. So when feces was smeared inside our Capitol and officers sneak-attacked by bear spray and the c o w a r d s on the Fascist Right and their psychotic minions tried to blame it on everyone but the Trailer Trash Militia Punks who planned and carried it out, it was misrepresented by the media ? Sell your child's nonsense somewhere else. Coward. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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omphaloskepsis
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Beg your pardon. I did not say a fire extinguisher was not throw. A fire extinguisher was thrown at the Jan 6th protest. I said the media claimed that a fire extinguisher killed a police officer. If that is a fact, then tell me the name of the police officer who was murdered with a fire extinguisher. If you answer officer Brian Sicknick. That was proved a lie. As a matter of record. The District of Colombia chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from stroke (the next day), classifying his death as natural. 1. Please give me the names of all five police officers murdered on Jan 6th. 2. Please tell me the names of Jan 6th Protesters who were charged with murder. Should be easy to find the information...if it really happened. "
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I don't take sides and really don't care about these circus events but it is true that NO video can be trusted and the kangaroo courts of the USA have long been infiltrated by corporate globalists. The moral of this and every story is don't believe what you're told. And anyone asking questions is definitely on the right track because events like this are very much manufactured to craft a public perception.
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"Approximately 420 federal defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 220 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration."
You can make sh*t up. You can lie. But when you are found guilty it's facts that are used in court. Stupid conspiracists divorced from reality suddenly wake up when the judge's gavel drops.
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Atavachron
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^ What the Hell are you f**king talking about you misguided traitorous sociopath?--- We watched, and we will watch and watch again, because it's amusing to see a mob of Fascists hurl fire extinguishers at cops from behind. Never hurt? Did you see the extinguisher thrown? I sure did, it was disgusting. Maybe you'd like to have a relative assaulted with a thirty pound piece of metal from the rear? It's also a blast to watch tens of Anti-American Criminals crush a man in a door as he screams for his life. But hey, i though it was Antifa's fault ... oh wait, it was BLM... right ? Take your bullsh*t conspiracy-loving, secessionist, Christian Nationalist, Trump Boot-licking bullsh*t and kiss every good American on the ass, okay big man ? |
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omphaloskepsis
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Cancel Culture is a thing. Just this week... On the Senate floor, Sen. Chuck Schumer demanded Fox News host Tucker Carlson's be censored. On the Senate floor, Schumer demanded Fox News stop Tucker Carlson from releasing January 6th video clips.
One of the video clips Carlson showed was the Capitol police opening gates/doors to crowds in the Capitol building. The film further showed the man with the Viking helmet and American Flag. At times.... as many as 9 police officers showed Viking Dude around the inside of the Capitol building. Two police officers were always with Viking Dude. They all looked friendly. Viking Dude thanked the police and prayed out.. thanking God for the police. I don't watch TV. I saw the referenced videos on Youtube. My opinion? Release all 44,000 hours of January 6th video to the public. Let people decide- one by one- what each believes. Do I doubt the narrative? Well, Biden and the media reported that 5 police officers were killed on Jan 6th. If you do diligent research, you'll find that only one person was killed on Jan 6. A policeman shot an unarmed woman. How about police officer reportedly beaten to death with a fire extinguisher? According to the coroner that police officer was never hurt, but he died the next day of a stroke with no external causes. Why did Biden/media feel it was necessary to lie about protesters murdering 5 police officers. Using common sense, one should ask questions like... 1. What are the names of the five murdered police officers? 2. Where is the film footage of the five police officers being murdered. (There is 44,000 hours of film footage.) 3. Has anyone been arrested for murder of any police officer on Jan 6? (The answer is no.)
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ha! you know what I did on Tuesday, Rich? Having tried to follow this thread, I decided it was high time I actually knew what .Cancel Culture. was, and looked up the definition... then, I decided while I was at it, that I'd gen up on 'woke' too... not sure how much this has benefitted me in my every day life, but there you go..
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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richardh
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This is not me trying to be ironic but I genuinely don't know what 'Cancel Culture' or 'Woke' means. I've just never bothered to look these phrases or words up. Therein ends my 'contribution' to this thread!
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Easy Money
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To answer the op's question, I see DeSantis temporarily benefitting from his attempts to 'cancel' everything from Disneyland, to college professors and history classes, but will that give him a path to the White House?
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^ I know lots of culturally conservative people. They will complain about democrats, Biden and Pelosi etc, but I never hear the term 'woke', ever. I only hear it from politicians, especially if they are running for president.
EDIT: I do hear the label 'snowflake' now and again, but that is a fairly malleable word with conflicting purposes. Edited by Easy Money - March 08 2023 at 06:46 |
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Negoba
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We all run in different circles so where we hear terms will differ, but "cultural appropriation" absolutely is still a real topic of discussion among left-leaning folks in my world. And it should be. There are times when using another culture's customs, dress, etc for entertainment value is in really bad taste. Is it the end of the world? No. But these things are definitely worth discussing. There are also times where culture diffuses inevitably across groups and localities and blends and is just a natural consequence of a hyperconnected world.
I also think the media we consume really biases us. I don't run in circles of conservatives just living their ordinary lives so I don't know if they even use these terms at all. I certainly see left-leaning media calling out right-leaning media but who knows what actual real humans beings think? I avoid right-leaning media as much as possible because I don't want to raise my blood pressure. |
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Stressed Cheese
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Sure, I get it. And again, whoever acts an idiot on either side should get called out for it. Where I get annoyed (as I'm sure you could've seen from my tone in the rest of this thread, lol) is that the whole idea that there is a massive group on the left that wants to scold and censor and lecture everyone is gaining traction so much these days simply because concervatives have repeated it over and over. For every person on the left who complains about nothing or is being oversensitive, there are 999 people on the right complaning about how they "can't say anything these days" or invent other things that not a single leftist actually has a problem with. Companies these days add fuel to the fire by doing things that they know will get a lot of hate-attention from right-wingers, who in turn conflate these actions with the beliefs of leftists (e.g., that Little Mermaid live-action remake that's upcoming). With the current state of this whole 'culture war' bullsh*t, forgive me if it's not my first priority to call out those who actually are too oversensitive or can't take a joke if the other side is simply so much more evil. There will always be people being oversensitive, people not being sensitive enough, people not able to suck up their pride and apologize when they made a mistake, and companies acting too cautiously or creating fake outrages for free publicity. The difference now is that the conservative view of censorship and "woke-ness" being out of control is being pushed so successfully that even those on the other side of the spectrum are now taking that narrative at face value, even if they don't agree with them otherwise. So I'm liking the bible analogy, but it's more that there's a beam in my eye, but an entire toolshed in the other's eye
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Sean Trane
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Don't het me wrong, here. I see you're a recent member here, so you might not be aware of me. I'm eternally tagged as a leftie on the forum, but I am always very lucid and call out flaws on my own side before attacking the other side. In another (christian) way, I'm looking if there aren't beam in my eyes, before denouncing the straw in my opponent's eye. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Stressed Cheese
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I agree that there's people on both sides who take things too far (and they equally deserve to be called out on it), but 99% of the time the term 'cultural appropriation' is used is when some conservative guy sacrastically mentions it (e.g., they've eaten chinese food and then say something like "but the libs probably think that's cultural appropriation"). There's always people on the left taking things too far, but by and large this is another figment of conservatives' imaginations. Most conversations about cultural appropriation is just right-wingers saying "liberals probably think this is cultural appropriation, lol". Just like how cancel culture pretty much exclusively consists of people either A) saying "am I gonna be cancelled for this? lol", B) not being cancelled at all but claiming they are because some people online got mad at them or because they need attention or C) people rightfully being chided for something but wanting to play the victim instead of owing up to their mistakes. Cancel culture, calling everything 'woke', bitching about (supposed) 'cultural appropriation' is all part of the same conservative strategy to paint anybody that's slightly more left, or black, or gay, or female than they'd like as some big bad that wants to shut everybody up and take away 'muh freedoms'. Yes, there are people on the left who take things too far and see some kind of regression in the most innocent things (and that deserves to be criticized/mocked), but please for the love of god stop falling for this conservative narrative.
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