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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Podium:
1) Mastica - Muñecos de Palo 2) Sl()agerij van Kampen - Otra Gacela 3) Christoph Haberer - Circle Move Honorable mentions: 4) 5) Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp - So Many Things 6) Comsat Angels 7) Police
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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As long as it's not danceable, we're very open to any kind of music...
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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I can only agree with
what has already been said. I had a really hard time choosing my favourites. So, I too will have to focus on the lesser-known artists.
I especially fell for
the live acts. Both ensembles, the Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp and Sl()agerij van Kampen won me
over with their passionate and energetic performances. However, in terms of composition
and musical versatility I found the former more convincing overall. But in any
other edition, either of the two would have got my vote. The situation was similar with Ghost Power and Pat Mastelotto's Mastica, whereby
the dilemma was even greater. But it is impossible for me to leave the Orchestre
Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp behind. However, I added both Ghost Power and Mastica to my wishlist! Another of my top
favourites is the fabulous Christoph Haberer. What a versatile and talented
musician! He played with Trilok Gurtu and Moussa Cissoko among others and here
he combines drumming with electronic music. Truly remarkable! I also appreciated the
more classic rock’n’roll drumming of e.g. Spastic Inc or Surgery but I am even more drawn to discover something new, also in terms of musical style. Therefore, my votes
will go to (in random order): - Orchestre Tout Puissant
Marcel Duchamp - Christoph Haberer - Mastica ____________________ Thank you, Christian for hosting and thank you all for this enjoyable edition! I'm pleased that some of you guys appreciated my music selection as well. Edited by Mila-13 - October 12 2022 at 04:03 |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6838 |
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Very good selection/competition. Going also with 1 vote per suggestion and new to me tracks, my votes went to
1. Mastica - really enjoyed this one and purchased the digital album on Bandcamp Friday. 2. Christoph Haberer 3. Guem & Zaka Percussion |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Very tough competition here, I'm not sure whether I ever had such a hard time to rank some of these over others. Nice also that we have some tracks in which the drums really take centre stage, some in which they are virtuous, some in which they are original, some where they are quite straight... thanks for all contributions! I knew theree of these before, the tracks by Police, Suzanne Vega, and Sting, and I love them all, but I won't vote for them just to make the job easier. The Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp will pick the first vote. There's just so much life in this, I love how much fun stuff is going on there. I could easily also vote for the Asteriod Witch but sorry George I just decided nobody gets two of my votes. Kees has two good candidates there. I'll vote for one of them but which? I'm always attracted to a good energetic live video, but ultimately I love the drumming on the Mastica track and also the atmosphere, and vote for it... how did that happen, I was pretty clearly on track for von Kampen, but...? Mila also doesn't give me an easy job - the Anne Paceo track is great but I don't really like the sound of the drums there, I think I'd vote for that if this weren't the drummers poll. The drumming aspect is better on Le Serpent, very well done and contagious this, but there's also The Mad Data Race and A.K.... By the way I love the Steve Moore video even though of course this excels by extra-musical factors, and Carl Palmer is of course a great drummer, but this is on PA, so I have an excuse not to vote for it. Where was I? Serpent vs. Mad Data Race vs. A.K. But the surgery would probably have to come up with a live video to convince me of this, I can better imagine this to work for me on stage, also once more the drums mix/sound is not quite to my liking. The Spastic Ink track is really very impressive, but I think at the end I go for Guem & Zaka, that's the swing! |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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@Pedro: Hey, this is a nice text!
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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A lot of good music here!
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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Thanks a lot for sharing this interesting concert footage! I'm not very familiar with that period and genre of German rock music. A good opportunity and way to learn more about it. That's one reason why I really appreciate these interactive polls. Edited by Mila-13 - October 10 2022 at 13:14 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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Hi, AND ... make sure you appreciate Michael Rother ... it tells you a lot about what we call "krautrock". Edited by moshkito - October 09 2022 at 08:04 |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Very nice list and I needed a couple of listens to some tracks to decide myself on my top three. I made it myself a bit easier by not choosing the ones I was most familiar with (Suzanne Vega, especially) or choosing two suggested by the same person... These three procured me the most discovery and listening pleasure of the otherwise very interesting bunch: - Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp - So Many Things - Anna Paceo - Wide Awake - Christoph Haberer - Circle Move
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Nice, let's hit it! Thanks for the playlist, Mila; I'll give an embedded version (avoids annoying ads between the tracks, for me at least...): |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Here's by the way something I just came across, didn't know this existed. This is almost two hours of music, a 2018 tribute concert to Jaki Liebezeit with a number of different sets featuring among others Irmin Schmidt, Damo Suzuki, Rosko Gee, Michael Rother, Jah Wobble, Gianna Nannini, Hans Bäär and Rüdiger Elze of Hoelderlin, and LOTS of great drumming inspired by Jaki's style, by his later bandmates Drums Off Chaos. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Hahaha, interactive polls have become so unpopular that not even trolls find them worth throwing in stray votes before voting is opened. I'm amazed!
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Voting is open now! I included JD's suggestions even though they may not have been intended to be in there... I thought it can't hurt to have some more music in the poll. Thanks everyone for contributing!
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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^^
@Christian, here's the Playlist There is also Argo2112/Mike who posted a Sting song. You will find the list of participants and their nominated artists in the description of the playlist.- Could you then please add the link to your OP so that eveyone can find it?
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Chances are it won't get me very far saying this, but absolutely would Ginger Baker count.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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OK, let's see what we have... MIla: Guem & Zaka Percussion - Le Serpent, Anna Paceo - Wide Awake Kees: Sl()agerij van Kampen - Otra Gacela and Mastica's Muñecos de Palo George: Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp, Ghost Power Jaketejas: Police - Walking on the Moon, Spastic Ink - The Mad Data Race (not explicitly confirmed as final nominations, but I guess this is how it's meant) Lorenzo: Suzanne Vega - Wooden Horse, Surgery: A.K. JD: Not sure whether there was any nomination there... please confirm! Carl Palmer is on PA and I'd nominate ZZ Top, but you said "not in the competition"!? I'd nominate Christoph Haberer and the Comsat Angels. Did I miss anything? Further/new contributions are still welcome, but I'd like to put up the final list tomorrow. Apparently making it easy (in my view) hasn't helped the general participation... well. I'd have liked to comment more and listening to all, which I'd hopefully manage to do at some point, but I still have computer/music machine trouble that trakes some time & energy. Edited by Lewian - October 07 2022 at 03:45 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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Hi, I'm not sure I can do that. I do not listen to MUSIC because it is this or that or something else ... I listen to it because it brings my heart alive. I don't really care where it fits except how it is used. The problem with our design/choice, is that we end up thinking that a great drummer can be in one place only, and this is not true. Heck, Ginger Baker deserves some kudos here, and he showed some great chops later in his life with African musicians and beats. I guess he might not count because CREAM is progressive by having been so famous as to rival our top 5!!! ![]() ![]() The German group NIAGARA (70's) was just drummers. The albums were quite interesting, and although you ended up just hearing a beat to get them in tune with each other, there are bits that showed that some folks were on different planets. However, it seems to me, that the recording of the whole thing was terrible, and that the only viable result was the beat and folks being on time. It would probably have been better, or more interesting, if some of the folks went against the grain!
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Edited by Mila-13 - October 06 2022 at 02:19 |
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