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Poll Question: Choose three songs
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    Posted: January 11 2022 at 07:56
Catching up... Listening to the playlist was a pleasant experience, but it also confirms that blues won't become a favorite genre of mine - my attention was regularly going elsewhere...
Anyway, excluding the known ones, two stood out for me and get my first votes: Laura Nyro and Jackie Venson. My third vote is a bit of a toss-up, but it finally goes to the energy of White Denim.

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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Eli's Comin' - Laura Nyro: Wow, top dynamical and energetic track here, up and down and up again it goes.

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Laura Nyro is one of the greatest singer-songwriter ever (imo).

I have open this poll thinking about her song Eli's comin', that I consider a masterpiece.
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Been away for awhile but got a chance to listen. Thanks Mila for the playlist and Lorenzo for this great poll.

My votes:

Jackie Venson - Love Transcends
Ebo Taylor - Ayesama
Cuby & The Blizzards - Somebody Will Know Someday

Mascotte: The Queen of Soul
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

That's fair enough and good to say to somebody who tends to ignore lyrics. Ouch

No problem Lewian, you are so kind and of course this song by Jackie Venson actually reaches out to us all regardless of who we are. Glad you liked it enough to have it in your voting. Heart


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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Jackie Venson - Love Transcends: Not sure how specifically this is "black music", but this is really how rock music should be played, underlined by the video that is done in my favourite way, showing musicians living their music while playing.

It is the modern take or one persons take of the black struggle in the USA (and black diaspora generally) for a long time. We all know blues and rock and roll has been homogenized pretty much. I'd say, this is a good example of using that rock/blues genre to make a point (rather than some other genre). 

specifically the lyrics

"Making us turn on ourselves
Always divide and conquer" 



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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Jackie Venson - Love Transcends: Not sure how specifically this is "black music", but this is really how rock music should be played, underlined by the video that is done in my favourite way, showing musicians living their music while playing.

It is the modern take or one persons take of the black struggle in the USA (and black diaspora generally) for a long time. We all know blues and rock and roll has been homogenized pretty much. I'd say, this is a good example of using that rock/blues genre to make a point (rather than some other genre). 

specifically the lyrics

"Making us turn on ourselves
Always divide and conquer" 
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Ebo Taylor - Ayesama: Shortly before the end of the list comes this surprise around... I'm a sucker for this kind of African music that like a big stream takes everything with it that is in its way, total music.

I'm glad that you enjoyed this one. Choosing an African track was a bit tricky but I thought that it shouldn't be missing. This musical style is a blend of various music genres, both African and American. It emerged back in the 1970s in Nigeria and Ghana (afrobeat/highlife) and is connected to the history of the African continent, that is the decolonisation period.- I've meanwhile ordered the Rawls/McCann album, a vinyl LP by the way. Smile



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...and on to the voting. Once more a great poll here with many discoveries and nice surprises.
Also once more I'll make my task a bit easier by not voting for things I had already known. That's here the songs by Joan Osborne and Living Colour, both great and would've been contenders for sure, and Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah), which I also like despite not being quite up with the other two in my taste.

Alas, even then I'm (also once more) left with more than three songs that I like so much that I have a hard time not voting for one of them. That's Laura Nyro, Rhiannon Giddens, Kool and the Gang, Jackie Venson, and Ebo Taylor.

OK, I've got to make a decision here, and that's...
Rank 5 for Kool and the Gang's Open Sesam. This flows wonderfully and comes with some great ideas and hooks, and I'll only vote against it with the lame excuse that I know quite a bit of Kool & Gang and am generally not that keen on them. But still...

Rank 4 Rhiannon Giddens - Julie. Just wonderful in its crystal clarity and simplicity, so another unfair decision to not vote for something, but that's how it is - I had earmarked this for voting when listening before nomination but am now drawn to others that I hadn't heard at that point by the surprise factor only.

I'm not going to rank the first three as I can't really and I don't have to, so in no particular order votes go to
Jackie Venson - Love Transcends: Not sure how specifically this is "black music", but this is really how rock music should be played, underlined by the video that is done in my favourite way, showing musicians living their music while playing.

Eli's Comin' - Laura Nyro: Wow, top dynamical and energetic track here, up and down and up again it goes.

Ebo Taylor - Ayesama: Shortly before the end of the list comes this surprise around... I'm a sucker for this kind of African music that like a big stream takes everything with it that is in its way, total music.

Mascot: All proposals are nicely iconic, and some nice additions are mixed into the playlist - the two that I love most here are Stevie Wonder and Aretha Franklin, and for the fun video I'll give it to the Queen of Soul.


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Lou Rawls: This velvety and at the same time raspy baritone voice is beyond compare! It is a soulful jazzy interpretation of a traditional blues song, accompanied by the fabulous Les McCann. This early recording shows Rawls at his best imo. This album is a must have! There is a remastered version released by Blue Note Records which I will purchase very soon.

Thanks for all the nice comments on I'd rather drink muddy water, particularly this one. Chances are you are much more of an expert for this kind of music than I am. In fact I hadn't really been attracted to this style despite respecting it a lot, however long time ago a friend of mine with musical tastes much different from mine played this album and I thought, this is really great, I absolutely need it,  and it grabs me more than anything of this genre I had heard before. Unfortunately I didn't do much to explore the "genre" (if it's considered as such) much more, but the album remains a jewel in my collection.
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Thank you for the information! I'm glad to learn more about music genres that I am less familiar with. I believe that this musical style is rarely heard nowadays. Thank you for introducing this exceptional artist!



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Rhiannon Giddens: Undoubtadly an outstanding artist doing an American traditional/roots music style, great vocals accompanied by an acoustic string instrument. She blends country/folk music with blues. Is that what is called bluegrass?

I had originally thought Ms. Giddens had borrowed the song directly from the plantation, a song passed down from generation to generation. But no, Rhiannon wrote the song, which I find fascinating, because it sounds old. Extremely well done. It is a folk song, in the vein of Negro spirituals in cadence. It's not bluegrass, it's based more on very early blues motifs.
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My votes in random order:
 
Sister Rosetta Tharpe: I’m impressed by the talent of this lady! I was not aware of her impact on the history of black music, and even rock ‘n’ roll. Furthermore – as it seems – she was a shining light in terms of female empowerment in the music business as well as inside the black community. I know above all female vocalists from that time, but I’ve never heard of a singing and electric guitar playing lady who performed in venues such as night clubs and the like. Kudos, Mrs Rosetta! Oh, and the video is just fantastic!

Lou Rawls: This velvety and at the same time raspy baritone voice is beyond compare! It is a soulful jazzy interpretation of a traditional blues song, accompanied by the fabulous Les McCann. This early recording shows Rawls at his best imo. This album is a must have! There is a remastered version released by Blue Note Records which I will purchase very soon.

Albert Collins: I have great respect for musicians who really master their instrument and develop a style of their own and this is what Collins definitely does. Some stirring and vibrant blues rock here, with witty and lively vocals interacting with smoking hot sax vibes. What more could you ask for?

Grand Prize Mascotte: Aretha Franklin the Queen of Soul.

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Rhiannon Giddens: Undoubtadly an outstanding artist doing an American traditional/roots music style, great vocals accompanied by an acoustic string instrument. She blends country/folk music with blues. Is that what is called bluegrass?

Cuby & The Blizards: are a quality blues-rock band and I wanted to know more about them. I read i.a. that they toured with Van Morrison, recorded an album with American blues musician Eddie Boyd and played with the 'king of British blues' Alexis Korner. This is really remarkable. Thanks for introducing your talented compatriots, Kees!

Kool And The Gang: are certainly, among the best r&b/soul/funk bands that left traces also in the disco era. The first part of ‘Open Sesame’ appears on the ‘Saturday Night Fever’ soundtrack. I perceive it as a horn-heavy funk jazz tune with a jam retro vibe. Unfortunately this original, long version somehow failed to convince me entirely. But a groovy track still!

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Thank you all for the music and your comments and thank you, Lorenzo for your commitment! These polls are fun and a ray of light in my everyday life. I hope that there will be many more to come!

I wish you all a very happy and healthy new year 2022! Smile




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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

Grand Prize : Mascotte - Otis Redding - One the best r&b soul artists I had the pleasure to listen to- I would have gone for Stevie but Otis just nudged him out by a hair. 

1. Elis coming - love the voice and the era of the song. Soft and lovely voice 9

2. Lou Rawlins - A nice crooner bluesy, jazzy song. I always want to click my fingers with this 8

3. Joan Osborne - A nice country blues edge to this one and her voice is amazing with the subtle almost yoddle. Great bluesy clean sound on the guitar. 9 

4. Kool & The Gang - Open Sasame - Such nice jazz funk, blues, love the whole song with the whappa, whappa, vibe, and the dirty sax 9

5. Living Color - Love Rears its Ugly Head - So smooth and warm with lovely fuzzy guitars with some nice wah! 8

6. Rhiannon Giddens - Julie - Nice early blues style with genuine guitar and vocals  8

7. White Denim - Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah) - Really enjoyable this one, and a nice blend of genres, its got the blues, the funk, the vocals, a dash of soul and psych - Top 3 material - 10

8. Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn't It Rain? - She really rocks here taking gospel and turning merging it with blues and love her voice and soul coming through the blues - of course one of the originals 9

9. Cuby & The Blizzards - Somebody Will Know Someday  - A real sauntering and passionate cry of the blues and I loved the clean non-distorted acoustic guitar 8

10. Ebo Taylor - Ayesama - Wow! This has to be in my top 3. I love the drums and whole rhythm the rawness and overall vibe of this song and the upbeat funk. The lovely sax at the end, YEA!- 10

11. Brighter Side of Darkness - Love Jones - I wish i was watching this for the first time its so lovely and atmospheric - 8

12. Albert Collins - Master Charge -Master of the Blues - wooah!! The expression and clarity of his lead playing always astounds me. Has to be my last top 3 pick - 10

Top Three: 

1. Albert Collins
2. Ebo Taylor
3. White Denim

Aside from picking a top 3 this was a really hard poll to choose as every song was top material including those that did not make it into the finals noms. I will be listening to this selection for a while to come. 




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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I was thinking that FUNKADELIC's album that has Maggot Brain, should be listed? There's a lot of great stuff listed here, although some of it was too much taken about the hits that so many of them were, but the best black singer/songwriter I have EVER seen and heard is MISSISSIPI CHARLES BEVEL and I got to see him with CHICK STREEMAN, both of them use to travel around California only, to my knowledge, most LA and SF. A couple of his songs, are so well done and sung as to bring everyone to tears.

Charles Bevel, was also one of the technicians for the KPFK station in LA ... the famous well known station, that also gave us THE FIRESIGN THEATER.

Moshkito, if you got time, here you can listen to all of the songs:
And if you want, you can vote for your favourites three!
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Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn't It Rain? 
Jackie Venson - Love Transcends 
Albert Collins - Master Charge 
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For those who have had time to comment, loved those.  Happy New Year to everyone here!  May 2022 score much higher in everyone's personal polls!  
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Hi,

I was thinking that FUNKADELIC's album that has Maggot Brain, should be listed? There's a lot of great stuff listed here, although some of it was too much taken about the hits that so many of them were, but the best black singer/songwriter I have EVER seen and heard is MISSISSIPI CHARLES BEVEL and I got to see him with CHICK STREEMAN, both of them use to travel around California only, to my knowledge, most LA and SF. A couple of his songs, are so well done and sung as to bring everyone to tears.

Charles Bevel, was also one of the technicians for the KPFK station in LA ... the famous well known station, that also gave us THE FIRESIGN THEATER.


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Some very interesting songs.....I chose...
Laura Nyro - Eli's comin' (jamesbaldwin)- big fan of all of her work
Living Colour - Love Rears Its Ugly Head (Cristi)- liked their early material hadn;t heard this in many years
L Rawls & L McCann - I'd rather drink muddy water (Lewian)- been a fan of Les McCann for a long time but not heard this one with Rawls

favorite 'Mascotte' song.........
Sly & The Family Stone - I Want To Take You Higher-loved those Sly lp's in the old days but all of those 'mascotte' songs are great.
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Grand Prize : Mascotte - Otis Redding - One the best r&b soul artists I had the pleasure to listen to- I would have gone for Stevie but Otis just nudged him out by a hair. 

1. Elis coming - love the voice and the era of the song. Soft and lovely voice 9

2. Lou Rawlins - A nice crooner bluesy, jazzy song. I always want to click my fingers with this 8

3. Joan Osborne - A nice country blues edge to this one and her voice is amazing with the subtle almost yoddle. Great bluesy clean sound on the guitar. 9 

4. Kool & The Gang - Open Sasame - Such nice jazz funk, blues, love the whole song with the whappa, whappa, vibe, and the dirty sax 9

5. Living Color - Love Rears its Ugly Head - So smooth and warm with lovely fuzzy guitars with some nice wah! 8

6. Rhiannon Giddens - Julie - Nice early blues style with genuine guitar and vocals  8

7. White Denim - Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah) - Really enjoyable this one, and a nice blend of genres, its got the blues, the funk, the vocals, a dash of soul and psych - Top 3 material - 10

8. Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn't It Rain? - She really rocks here taking gospel and turning merging it with blues and love her voice and soul coming through the blues - of course one of the originals 9

9. Cuby & The Blizzards - Somebody Will Know Someday  - A real sauntering and passionate cry of the blues and I loved the clean non-distorted acoustic guitar 8

10. Ebo Taylor - Ayesama - Wow! This has to be in my top 3. I love the drums and whole rhythm the rawness and overall vibe of this song and the upbeat funk. The lovely sax at the end, YEA!- 10

11. Brighter Side of Darkness - Love Jones - I wish i was watching this for the first time its so lovely and atmospheric - 8

12. Albert Collins - Master Charge -Master of the Blues - wooah!! The expression and clarity of his lead playing always astounds me. Has to be my last top 3 pick - 10

Top Three: 

1. Albert Collins
2. Ebo Taylor
3. White Denim

Aside from picking a top 3 this was a really hard poll to choose as every song was top material including those that did not make it into the finals noms. I will be listening to this selection for a while to come. 





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Defiinitely figured that was the case for many, tigerfeet!  

I am really happy that we've been doing the 2-week runs, with a weekend in between, it takes time to properly digest and think about the music in these polls.  

Those with family around, or traveling for holidays, not to mention jobs, assuredly have a lot less time this time of year.  
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