Interactive Black Music: Blues, Soul and Funky
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Topic: Interactive Black Music: Blues, Soul and Funky
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Subject: Interactive Black Music: Blues, Soul and Funky
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 06:36
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Hello dear friends! This poll is dedicated to blues, soul and funky music. Here is the "mascotte" of this poll: Rules: - You can propose up to 3 blues, soul, funky songs, then on Wednesday 22 you choose a song to propose for the vote. Songs can be very contaminated: blues-rock, electronic-soul, funky-hip-hop, blues-rap, soul-jazz, funky-gospel and so on. (No pure jazz or pure gospel songs allowed). - Comments on the proposed songs are very welcome. - The length of the songs must be between 2 minutes and 7 minutes. - Instrumental pieces are not allowed. We want to capture the soul of the artist! - Songs from prog groups present on progarchives are not allowed. - Songs from groups considered prog-related or proto-prog are allowed. Enjoy!!!  ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 06:46
Since I am already black (James Baldwin!)  , I propose three songs sung by whites:1) Laura Nyro: Eli's comin' 2) Streetwalkers: Crazy Charade 3) The The: Sodium Light Baby ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:12
Getting my selections together. Looking forward to this round!  ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:29
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I'm not very strong in this department (although for sure I love some Stevie Wonder), not sure whether I can come up with more, but I have this Lou Rawls & Les McCann album that I love... I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:48
The theme is open to every kind of contamination. I think there is a lot of pop / rock music mixed wuth blues, soul and funky. With Stevie Wonder I have introduced the idea of a Mascotte for every poll. It's only a joke. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Lewian wrote:Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:51
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Oh, and this, I bought it because Mik Glaisher of the Comsat Angels is the drummer here. Chicken Legs Weaver - Paper Houses (actually not sure whether this qulifies but band leader Andy Weaver is listed as blues singer). |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 11:58
That is fair enough and I know quite some more who apply, but chances are many of those are generally well known and I'm not the one who knows them best.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 12:11
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Blazzaj - Am Tot Ce Vrei |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 12:29
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Ironically, perhaps, two of my three selections today are from Caucasian performers, the third was an early racially integrated band. First, Mother Earth with "Down So Low," from their Living With the Animals release in 1968. Tracy Nelson is the fine vocalist here. Next up is someone I thought might be too well-known in another poll, but this song wasn't a huge hit, although it's my favourite from this album. Joan Osborne with "Pensacola," from Relish in 1995. Lastly, is "Signed DC," by Love, from their S/T album released in 1966.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 13:40
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This is totally my thing but not sure if I'll be able to participate given the time of the year. As for the selection criteria, imo really cool old school funk music is often instrumental, it's all about the groove!
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 15:33
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Just three? This is tough. I submitted these because you don't hear them every day. 'Can I Change My Mind' - Tyrone Davis 'Living a Little, Laughing a Little' - The Spinners 'Open Sesame' - Kool and the Gang |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 17:16
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Black women need to be represented.... Rhiannon Giddens - Julie Memphis Minnie - When the Levee Breaks Esperanza Spalding - Endangered Species ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 18:10
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Hot Chocolate- Every 1's a Winner Fishbone - Everyday Sunshine White Denim - Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah) |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 18:35
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Too many to mention. There is a universe of excellent black soul, funk, jazz, rock etc I'd just like to mention SISTER ROSETTA THARPE She is credited for having invented the rock guitar playing style. Although she was clearly in the gospel blues camp, her innovation was a clear bridge between blues and rock which ultimately led to prog as well! My favorite album i've heard Gospel Train http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6eCW670shE&list=OLAK5uy_mxYlHbPv6lyAcR8qRGwvvs8soctbLzuak" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6eCW670shE&list=OLAK5uy_mxYlHbPv6lyAcR8qRGwvvs8soctbLzuak -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2021 at 18:44
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First listen up through what is likely to be half of page one. Lorenzo: I
have seen Stevie Wonder open (!) at least half a dozen, or maybe more times,
back in the 1970’s. He and Joe Cocker
(another known yet also appropriate artist for this poll), both. Always a great show (from both). Laura Nyro “Eli’s Comin’” I know this one very well, it was a huge hit
here in the states, both her version and Three Dog Night’s. And suits the category quite well. Roger Chapman & Streetwalkers “Crazy
Charade” I actually own this on a CD, so
not going to go over it, but loved Roger Chapman, especially with Family. Another wonderful spectacle in performance,
like Joe Cocker. The The “Sodium Light Baby” Funky wah-wah guitar, has a real seductive,
eerie, voodoo feel to this one. Smooth
vocalist, with lots of passion. Christian: Lou Rawls “I’d Rather Drink Muddy Water” My mom was a huge Lou Rawls fan, let’s see if I remember this one from her collection. Classy, classy club atmosphere. Gorgeous voice with just that hint of rasp. Cool, cool piano, brushed drums and sounds like standup bass. My mom had great taste. 😊 Chicken Legs Weaver “Paper Houses” Gotta love this guy’s name! A much heavier piece, with a definitely raspy voice, heavy percussion and kind of a rap. Wonky, wangly guitars, kind of a sarcastic tone to it. Thin and angly guitar lead towards the end Cristi: Curtis Mayfield ”Freddie’s Dead – Superfly” I remember this very well, had tons of radio play in LA in it’s day. Top drawer of it’s type. Suits the category quite well, though! Blazzaj “Am Tot Ce Vrei” Horn section and full band begin this one. There’s kind of a rap vocal, another super-raspy voiced singer, which goes well with this type of music. Lots of poppin’ bass and punches of the horn section throughout. Funky! Living Colour “Love Rears Its Ugly Head” I remember this one, it’s a classic song of it’s type, all excellent players and a fabulous vocalist! Wish I heard it for the first time, it would surely have been a contender. Dwill123: Tyrone Davis “Can I Change My Mind” Lighter feel than the previous selections, this has a great vocalist also, smooth and steady. Subdued production of the horn section and band, to showcase the fine vocal delivery. The Spinners “Living a Little, Laughing a Little” Ooooh, I liked that harp glissando at the beginning. Sounds like it will be a full production piece. Another fine singer, this one with more nasal quality. Thoughtful lyrics. Kool and the Gang “Open Sesame” Sort of a Middle Eastern vibe, but very obliquely. Poppin’ bass again here and sharp horns. Female chorus in background, then the guys join on in. They add in a little riff of “Streets of Cairo,” then back into the mail theme, to revisit it again later. I think I liked Tyrone Davis the best here, even though that harp gliss caught my ear. Dark Elf: Rhiannon Gidden “Julie” I think I’ve seen her before, but not heard this. A fantastic Delta or Appalachian style blues/folk tune. I love banjo when it’s played this way, not so jangly. I looked her up, now I know that I’ve seen her with the Carolina Chocolate Drops, courtesy NPR. Excellent choice! Memphis Minnie “When the Levee Breaks” And now for some more Delta music. Vintage recording, another where folk and blues combine in their own kind of mixture. Esperanza Spalding “Endangered Species” Looking forward to it, from her intro. Sophisticated jazzy piece, vocalist is one heck of a bassist also. I like Rhiannon the best here, although all three are welcome to my ear. George: Hot Chocolate “Every 1’s A Winner” Funky groove here, soulful singer. Horn section, lots of production here. Fuzzy guitar and steady bass notes on keyboards. Good times song. Fishbone “Everyday Sunshine” A real blend of many styles, Fishbone was big on the LA scene during the 80s. Heavy horns start this one out, another upbeat tune. More smooth and soulful vocals. More good times were had by all. White Denim “Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah)” Here is another goodtimes piece, good groove, danceable. I think I liked Fishbone the best here. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 06:26
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Really? Eli's coming was a hit in the Ststes!? I believed Nyro's music was appreciated only by few persons. Hmmm, and now I don't know what to do, should I nominate this song or not? Hmmm... ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 06:31
Blazzaj is a band that did two albums and I don't know much else about them. They blend jazz, funk and rap, they have humorous, often sarcastic, in a funny way, lyrics. His vocals are not like that usually, he forces his voice there. The vocalist raps and sometimes sings. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 07:49
I suppose I should qualify, her song as performed by Three Dog Night was the huge hit, at least here in the States. I remember that in LA, at least, she received a ton of airplay after her untimely death, but don't know how high her original charted. In those days, so much could be regional and remember that Los Angeles is a major music industry town, then and now. I am sure that many will not have heard her original version, which I find superior to Three Dog Night's. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 16:24
Thank you, Nickie! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 16:28
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Grand Prize: The Best Mascotte After 1) Superstition by Stevie Wonder, 2) Percy Sledge: When a man loves a woman if anyone wants to participate in this alternative prize, just post - a video representative of the era where the protagonist is - a black artist or a black group in the end we will choose the video + the song that we like best for its iconicity ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 16:39
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Fun idea, Lorenzo! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 14 2021 at 17:19
Mila, post a video of an instrumental piece for the Grand Prize of the best mascotte! (look at my previous messages and you will understand)
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 03:20
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Not my specialty, so I'm a bit Lost & Lookin' (for more)... Rodolphe Burger - Lost & Lookin': ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 04:44
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Oh, and a bit of nostalgia, a kind of bluesy clog funk... Well, they were more mixing blues and rock 'n roll, but this track has some funky elements. They were "big" in The Netherlands (and maybe a bit in Germany) in the late 70s, early 80s, especially with their hit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3wNVa_cE-Q" rel="nofollow - Rosalyn (anyone remember?). I had the pleasure to see them live in the early/mid eighties (and only have a double live album of theirs). Here a live track... Vitesse - Midnight Oil: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 05:27
Thanks Nickie. I was in good times kind of mood when I selected these. My selections could of turned out different. Now I am going to post more Good Times. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 06:45
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I know the rules said only three selections but there are just too many good selections being left on the vine. I'll leave quietly now.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 09:35
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And my third suggestion, to stay in the Lowlands, the Dutch blues legends Cuby and the Blizzards... Cuby & The Blizzards - Somebody Will Know Someday (1967): ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 15 2021 at 15:38
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Grand Prize: Best Mascotte 3) Aretha Franklin: Think ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 02:43
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Letta Mbulu: Kilimanjaro Take Us Higher (from the album: Sound of a Rainbow, 1980) Ebo Taylor, a Ghanaian highlife/afrobeat legend who experienced a late comeback about ten years ago (maybe i.a. thanks to American r&b/hip hop star Usher who sampled one of his old tracks?). At any rate, Taylor subseqently relased two new albums, or even more and toured extensively (I attended a concert in Switzerland in 2014). These albums include new tracks and newly arranged unreleased material. Here is one of his recent songs. Ebo Taylor: Ayesama (from the album: Appia Kwa Bridge, 2012) Obviously, both tracks are a fusion of various genres but they do include the musical styles that are subject of this poll.- I might post a third tune later on, maybe a current soul/r&b track, also by an African artist. Let's see. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 16 2021 at 19:40
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First thoughts on page 2 so far, with an addition, as well. George: CHIC “Good
Times” I loved to watch Soul Train,
brings back some good memories of a tough time for me. Very period style of this kind of music. Fun and lighthearted. Kees: Rodolphe Burger “Lost & Lookin’” Sleepy
kinda blues, deep, deep voiced male with a whispery female singing along. This is very moody, some whangy guitar, soft
drums and standup bass. Vitesse
“Midnight Oil” Poppin’ bass, tight band
and excellent vocalist for this type of music.
Upbeat, yet telling the sad story of having to study too much. Punchy and great groove. Cuby & The Blizzards “Somebody Will Know Someday” Starts with just the soulful, bluesy vocals of
the singer and piano, then quiet drums join in, bass is very understated. Very impassioned vocal. Nice piano solo about ½ way in. I like the quiet instrumentation with the
powerful vocalist. Unexpected type of guitar solo,
too. My fave of yours. dwill123: Johnny “Guitar” Watson “A real mother for ya” Funky groove, horns, a funky eeooww-good god-voice. Kind of a rap in there, for good measure, near the end. Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes “Don’t Leave Me This Way” Much softer sound with electric piano and an orchestra in the mix. Another great voice here, which is at the center of the focus. Pace picks up about 1/3rd in, with horns punctuating. Well produced, without overdoing it. Gospel chorus joins in for a bit near the end, then the song fades. The O’Jays “Put Your Hands Together” Another funky one here. Horns and an upbeat chorus exhorting everyone to have some fun and join on in with them. Then goes into a more serious message about people joining together to make things better in this world. Parliament-Funkadelic “Cosmic Slop”Live performance of the funkiest folks around. This has some great African roots sound to it, also, really enjoy those women singing backup. Great bass voice in there, too. Horn section wit this, also. I think this is my fave of yours. Mila: Letta Mbulu “Kilamanjaro take us higher” Whirly swirly keys, bass and drums to start. Definitely hear the Africa here, but with a modern slant. Soulful female vocalist, horn section, really a smooth sort of sound. Love those high notes she hits as the piece fades. Ebo Taylor “Ayesama” Love the organ and horns, great beat going on with drums, bass and then the horns. Call and response sort of tune. If you don’t do a third one, this is my fave of the two. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 17 2021 at 20:46
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So, glad this ones the blues, soul, funk - great genre ! My first nominee is a great guitarist/vocalist who crosses genres but solidly based in blues https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYA3ErHXiiufRE03fLwcLoA" rel="nofollow - Jackie Venson Do not Click the above link, it will propel you to blues funk perfection :D just for extra fun - not compulsory From her new album released this year More Bluesy live version ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 17 2021 at 20:54
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My 2nd Nomination is a song by the amazing Black Pumas who cross soul/funk and wish a dash of psych If ya not convinced check em out here ... not compulsory .. extra link to more music by them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfRm6uNx7I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfRm6uNx7I ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 17 2021 at 21:16
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My 3rd Nomination is Brandon 'Taz' Niederauer a wonderful blues/funk guitarist I'm kinda cheating a bit on this one as I got tired of being compliant and also thought it features him so wonderfully. Not convinced .. check this out :) link for further watching not compulsory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta09rxcLjB8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta09rxcLjB8 ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 07:13
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Mr. Dynamite. The Hardest Working Man in Show Business. Soul Brother Number 1. The Godfather of Soul. Must be considered as Mascotte. So iconic. Too many songs and performances to choose from. But here is one. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 09:02
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My 2008 Mac won't let me update browsers which then disallows me from uploading video links, but man oh man did you choose a topic I could get into! I grew up in Motown, glued to the radio, and have continued to maintain a love for funk/R&B/Soul. The one I'd love to upload first would be "Love Jones" by Brighter Side of Darkness--just for its AMAZING intro. Then I'd bring on The Isleys' "Summer Breeze", Parliament's "Maggot Brain", Prince's "Breakfast Can Wait" or "Sign of the Times", Gil Scott-Heron's "Home Is Where the Hatred Lives", Sampha's "Under", Seal's "Crazy", Alicia Keys' "If I Ain't Got You," Thelma Houston's "Don't Leave Me This Way", Michael's "Off the Wall", The Temptations' "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone", Sade's "Cherish the Day", Marvin Gaye's "Inner City Blues (Makes Me Wanna Holler)", Lamont Dozier's "Why Can't We Be Lovers?", Stevie's "Love Light in Flight" and "Superstition", Aretha's "Master of Eyes", Junior Walker & The Allstars' "What Does It Take (To Win Your Love for Me?)", Cameo's "Candy", Teena Marie's "Lover Girl", "Change of Heart" by Change, "Saturday Love" by Cherelle and Alexander O'Neal, "The New Style" by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, "Next Lifetime" by Erykah Badu, "Bebela" by Les Nubians, "This Time" by Janet Jackson, "Street Life" by the Crusaders, "No, No, No" by Destiny's Child, "Tightrope" by Janelle Monnae, "Always There" by Ronnie Laws, "Sweet Love" by Anita Baker, "The Worst Guys" by Childish Gambino, etc., etc.--and these don't even include any white guys! I'm getting carried away and I still don't know if I understand how to play this game (not much of a gamer of puzzle solver). ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 09:38
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 11:15
Great choice! I was considering these guys myself but was not quite sure whether they were too well known. I'm a bit confused about that selection criteria tbh.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 11:40
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Each poll host decides the criteria. One simply cannot know what is already known to others ahead of time, we are all ages, from all over the world. With some exceptions, most people know Beatles songs, no matter where they are from (and whether they like them or not), or classics of many eras. But there are some people of the younger set who really aren't familiar with lots that I would be, because of my age and experience and location. People in Europe may consider some artists well known, but some European acts missed a lot of airplay etc in the US, especially back in the days of more regional radio. Artists who are in PA can make it an easier time of figuring out who would be "lesser known," as they have X number of ratings. But unless it's stated that it MUST be lesser known, it doesn't have to be. It is flexible. There are no harsh judges cracking down on "the rules." Only that you love the presented music within the category and be kind to others when discussing their choices, and following the guidelines set forth by the host. I generally choose to present lesser-knowns (or what I think will be), as I love to champion underdogs and always have. And don't vote "for," material I am familiar with. But that is my own criteria I have set for myself. It is not a requirement, nor is it a requirement to vote or to comment on the choices. I hope that explains it, at least how it's been practiced within these polls.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 11:41
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 18 2021 at 12:19
Yes, they are magnificent and have a great rounded sound. I would just have fun and not worry too much. you can't go wrong with Blues, Soul, Funk... look forward to hearing your choices and all other's choices ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 07:49
Thanks for your encouragement, Tigerfeet! You know, for me as a European it is always a bit tricky when it comes to U.S. artists and also Uk artists who might be well-known in the U.S. Besides blues, soul, funk are primarily American musical genres. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 07:51
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when's the deadline for final nominations?
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 08:12
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First thoughts on the rest, up until now, one addition: dwill123: Dr
John “Right Place Wrong Time” New
Orleans voodoo music. Big hit here when
it was released. He’s a lotta fun. tigerfeet:
Jackie Venson “Love Transcends”
Whangy guitar and a storyteller female vocalist. I like this blending of
genres. She moves from anger to
gentleness within the song, imploring us to remember that love transcends all
of the hatred and anger in the world.
Driving guitar solo near the end.
Moves down to the quiet ending. Black Pumas “Colors” Tantalizing description! Reminds me much of the soul/psych of the
60’s. Classic sort of song structure,
with an excellent lead vocal ist. I will
enjoy checking out their Tiny Desk Concert. Brandon ‘Taz’ Niederauer “Funk Jam” Definitely very funky. Jam with lots of fast and heavy playing. And I mean crazy fast. And clean.
I like the Black Pumas the best here ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 13:21
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I was away for the we and unfortunately couldn't post anything. I hope that it is not too late to do so? But anyway, I wish to introduce to you also a contemporary African artist. In recent years quite a few African artists have taken a step into the Western music industry, and with great success. Although I'm not the biggest fan of the neo soul and r&b genre there are however a few artists who did attract my attention. One of them is this young and talented Sudanese singer and songwriter who is currently based in the Netherlands. Here you can see her perform in an intimate acoustic live session with a Dutch musician and producer who over the last years has been a major force in the uprising of underground music in Amsterdam's hip hop & soul culture.
Full Crate ft. Gaidaa: A Storm on a Summers Day |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 15:34
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My suggestion for the Grand Prize, Best Mascotte would be these guys who were influential in shaping the sound of Southern/Memphis soul and are esp. known as the originators of the unique Stax sound. When it comes to Motown vs Stax Records, I am and - without any doubt - will always be team Stax!  |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 15:57
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For the Grand Prize, Best Mascotte, I bring Ray Charles, with "What'd I Say?" My mother's favourite performer, he was often on the turntable in my house as we grew up.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 16:20
You deserve your own radio show, Nickie with all the knowledge you have! I couldn't pick just one and chose therefore Booker T & The MG's to represent all those greats from Stax |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 16:23
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 16:40
This was not necessarily a response to your mascott selection, I was rather referring to your comments. I'm familiar with various musical genres but rather from other parts of the world. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 16:47
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I see, thank you, nonetheless. Still a lovely compliment. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:14
Wednesday night ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:31
1) Down So Low Song with strong blues roots, a plantation song? I did not understand the words well. And with gospel choirs, 1968, and you can hear it. I love the sixties and songs like this, simple, sober, with great vocal performance, songs which have their roots in the life of the simple people. Extremely beautiful 2) Pensacola Song with a strong blues connotation, a lament sung extremely well by the author, with blues harmonica and rhythmic arrangement, plus an electric guitar. Song that draws her strength from the monotonous and plaintive rhythm, ennobled by the singer's pregnant singing. This is also very beautiful 3) Signed DC. Short and lean blues by Love. Unexceptionable song, very sober, I like it, but it cannot stand comparison with the first two pieces. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:35
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Thank you as always for your succinct and thoughtful reviews, Lorenzo. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:35
Wonderful! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:39
This song was a breakthrough in blues and rock music! But we need a video: I have found this one: do you like it? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:44
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About What I'd Say This is the versione by the Beatles in Hamburg (1960 or 1961). The singer is Tony Sheridan. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:48
3) Beautiful, warm voice that reminds us how black Americans are African Americans, because it sounds like it came straight out of a cotton field in Alabama. Slow, sober and meditative, contemplative song, of a simple and poignant beauty. Incidentally, also the singer is beautiful. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 18:57
1) Kilimanjaro Take Us Higher dance song, cheerful, funky, with great work of the rhythm section, nice to dance in a nightclub full of African Americans who teach me the rhythm (I dance the tango, we are a bit far!) 2) Ayesama 2012 song but the organ looks like that of Ray Manzarek of the Doors. The singing and percussion are decidedly African but overall it feels like an old-fashioned blues with a syncopated African rhythm that is close to the Caribbean. I mean, very mestizo song, tainted but maybe it's my favorite of your three, Mila. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 19:07
Drew you mentioned a lot of songs, you should pick one from here to wednesday. This is the first one you mentioned, if you don't read this message and you don't nominate any song for the vote, I would like to propose this to all of us. Beautiful vintage piece ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 19:11
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@Lewian Mi fave is the Chicken Legs Weaver's song. @Cristi My fave is the Living Colour's song. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 19:57
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@dwill 123 My fave is the song by Kool and the gang @the dark elf My fave is Julie @mathman0806 My fave is Ha Ha Ha Ha ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 20:26
| My all time favorite black band is Sly and the Family Stone. You can hear proggish elements in some of those 60s albums. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 21:04
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A favorite funky blues tune .... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 21:36
One of my favorite groups all time for sure Mascotte nomination: |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 01:40
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I nominate Living Colour - Love Rears Its Ugly Head
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 03:48
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My internet seems somewhat patchy, so not sure how much more I can listen to before nomination time, but here's a bit: It's a good theme as it makes me explore some music that I don't listen to very often - even though I realise I know a pretty good number of artists here. Lorenzo: The Laura Nyro one is super awesome and in fact the only artist of yours I didn't know (although I didn't know the other tracks). Surely a contender. I like Chappo as a singer, but the track doesn't do much for me. The The The track is one of those that don't grab me at first listen but have some elements that let me think that it could reveal more with repeated listening. Cristi: Curtis Mayfield is a legend of course but not my cup of tea. I like the other ones more and would in fact have preferred the Blazzaj one for the instrumental awesomeness despite not being in love with the vocals. Well actually, the Living Colour singer is more to my liking and this is about as good overall, but I heard it before. Nicky: I absolutely love the Joan Osborne song, but alas, I have that album (for some reason didn't think of it in connection with this poll). The vocal performance of Mother Earth is great, but otherwise this doesn't attract me much. Then Love is a band that I haven't explored enough because I always like when some of their stuff is played but I don't have anything or a proper overview of their career. This would make a worthy nomination, even though it wouldn't beat Joan Osborne for me. dwill123: Kool and the Gang are cool indeed. I don't like all of their stuff but this one features their strengths very well and has little to distract from them. I'd choose the Spinners over Tyrone Davis, but both of these don't really cut the mustard for me.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 04:23
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Dark Elf: That Esperanza Spalding one is great, another clear contender for a top position. I'm also very keen on the Rhiannon Giddens song, whereas the Memphis Minnie track passes me by. George: I loved Hot Chocolate as a teen and this is iconic, the only problem is this is too well known (at least by me). The other two unfortunately don't really get me. I prefer White Denim of those.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 07:54
There are kind of two eras of Love, the early garagy stuff (like this) and the later, more truly psych and cerebral realms. Tracy Nelson actually lives in Nashville (or did while I still did) and you can catch her at clubs sometimes, she focuses more on Blue with a Country edge than with Mother Earth. That Joan Osborne song in particular knocked me out and still does. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 08:05
Fantastic! He was such a wonderful and engaging live performer. We are lucky to have so much once the televised era came along of these early pioneers. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 08:12
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First thoughts on the last two new entries and Mila's 3rd selection. Mila: Full
Crate ft Gaidaa “A Storm on a Summers Day”
Quiet, introspective and sweet. A
song for nights up late, soft guitar and a soulful female lead singer. Subtle harmonies on the chorus. I am not sure whether I prefer the Ebo Taylor
or this third one the best.
Drew: Brighter Side of Darkness "Love Jones" Another Soul Train foray, nostalgic TV show for me, as aforementioned. Smooth, sexy soul music, very convincing plea
for his girlfriend to keep him. Kind of
a Jackson Five vibe with the youngster singing that soprano piece, the matching
outfits etc. dr wu23: Albert
Collins “Master Charge” Funky sax starts
the groove rollin’ on this bluesy romp, punctuated with electric guitar. Funny story about the wife going out shopping
with the guy’s Master Charge and going wild with it. We get to hear Albert singing the parts of
both the husband and the wife. Fully
charged guitar lead commences, with some solid backing by band and saxes. Ends with the wife gushing about the glories
of using credit cards. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Laughing in a good way. Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 09:30
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Unfortunately I haven't had the possibility yet to listen to all the music and I'm afraid that won't happen for some time. I will be on and off this coming two weeks and will not have the usual listening possibilities, but I will chime in when I can... My nomination is Cuby & The Blizzards ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 10:50
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I am going to choose Joan Osborne's "Pensacola," this round. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 12:50
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My nomination is Eli's Coming. Thanks to Nickie and Christian. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 14:33
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One last clip if there's time...love this tone and playing....move over Page and Clapton. And one of my favorites...the classic 'rockin chair' lp.....I wish I had an original of this and the 'Wolf' lp. Obviously where the 'Captain' got his influences regarding his vocals........... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 14:51
dr wu, it's time for the nominations!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 16:55
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Since at least 3 people have mentioned Rhiannon Giddens, I'll go with "Julie". Thanks. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 18:14
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We are waiting for the nominations! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 18:17
| I nominate White Denim - Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah). |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 20:07
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I had to chose Jackie Venson - "Love Transcends" :) The rocking bluesy version is my favorite as i love the rawness. ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 20:26
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Hard to choose one nomination.....Albert Collins needs some love so Master Charge...... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 03:45
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Hard choice this time. Although the Chicken Legs Weaver track is great and somewhat closer to my general taste, I'll nominate "I'd rather drink muddy water" by Lou Rawls & Les McCann as it fits the topic better. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 06:12
I guess this one: ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 06:17
Dwill, you should nominate one song. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 06:19
Mila, nomination? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 08:29
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And final first thoughts as the nominations are filling in. Adding 2 and somehow missed one the first go-round (my apologies for the omission). dr Wu23: Freddie King “Big Legged Woman” Clearly having a good time and playin’ the
heck out of the geetar, with drums, bass and organ providing solid
backing. He’s another one of those
amazing guitarists who looks like he’s not doing much, while all of those notes
come flowing out. Also has a fine voice
for the genre. Howlin’Wolf “Spoonful” Another from our stack of LPs against the
stereo console in my childhood home. Now
we’re bringing the Chicago style to the table.
Raggedy voice, punchy guitar, and honky-tonk piano. Short and sweet, and a favourite tune for
many rockers to cover. Since I know this
one, will have to go with Freddie as my fave of yours here. siLLy puppy:
Sister Rosetta
Tharpe “Didn’t It Rain?” Certainly one
of the progenitors of R&B and rock ‘n’ roll, a massive influence. Combining blues, gospel and adding her own
style to electric guitar, this song and engaging
performance shows why she was such an endearing presence. She certainly could also hold her own in the
Mascotte group. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 10:09
'Open Sesame' - Kool and the Gang
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 11:52
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Sorry for the delay, I had a busy day! I'll go with Ebo Taylor: Ayesama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpdyFTCDjuw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpdyFTCDjuw I think that some good old highlife/afrobeat should not be missing in this edition. And btw. the footage for this song was shot in Ebo Taylor's hometown of Saltpond, Ghana. Half the town participated in the production of that video, celebrating their music legend! Nickie and Lorenzo, thank you so much for your great comments! I reall really wanted to comment myself on all suggested songs but there were just too many and I simply couldn't make it. I will for sure comment on the nominated songs, though. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 14:41
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Voting is open! Rules: 1) You can vote for your favorite three songs (no more, and not yours!) 2) You can vote for your favorite mascot: only one vote. You can give it based not only on the song but also on the video, on what brings you into that musical era. Here are the 4 mascots: 1) Stevie Wonder: Superstition 2) Percy Sledge: When a Man Loves a Woman 3) Aretha Franklin: Think 4) Booker T & MGs: Green Onions 5) Ray Charles: What I'd Say 6) Sly & The Family Stone: I Want To Take You Higher 7) Otis Redding: Try a Little Tenderness ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 16:08
------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 17:23
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By the way, Lorenzo, it's "Rhiannon" not "Shiannon" Giddens. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 17:58
 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 18:04
| Lorenzo, decided not to include the Queen and Godfather of Soul in the Mascotte poll? Too iconic? |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 23 2021 at 19:42
Oh, I was undecided, I'd like to include Percy Sledge and Aretha Franklin too, but then I thought I'd participate with only one artist, being the only forumist to have proposed three... but if you agree, I also include the Queen and the Grandfather of soul. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 24 2021 at 01:11
I think that a female mascott would make it complete. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 24 2021 at 05:49
Done! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: December 24 2021 at 14:31
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I'm not quite sure whether George has posted the playlist already but if not, here it is just in case incl. the Iconic Mascotte Grand Prize candidates. If you prefer them in a separate playlist, please let me know. Have fun! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5TfEjXOFh2T03hWMwG0mjBw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5TfEjXOFh2T03hWMwG0mjBw And Merry Christmas Everyone! Dance scene feat. Idris Elba, Chris Brown, etc. doing the Soul Train's line . . |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 24 2021 at 20:31
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Thanks for posting the playlist Merry Christmas everyone !! ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 25 2021 at 07:42
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Yes, thank you, Mila! And Merry Christmas to all as well! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 25 2021 at 15:45
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Firstly, I would like to add that the addition of the Grand Prize,
Best Mascotte entries were all fabulous and don’t really need me to comment on
them individually. Yet another
innovation, thanks to the mind of Lorenzo.
Bravo! Thanks to Lorenzo for the poll and to Mila for the playlist,
which makes it easy to relisten to the final selections. And all were wonderful contributions, I did know
a fair amount of these and there were a multitude of “If You’d Chosen’s,” so
not going to list them, even though I sometimes do. I’ve got to go with Percy Sledge, another of my mom’s
favourites, for the Grand Mascotte, even though every single one was deserving
and merited the title. 1. Dark Elf: This one just stuck with me. I really like the raw, folky feel here. HIS CHOICE: Rhiannon Gidden “Julie” I think I’ve seen her before, but not heard this. A fantastic Delta or Appalachian style blues/folk tune. I love banjo when it’s played this way, not so jangly. I looked her up, now I know that I’ve seen her with the Carolina Chocolate Drops, courtesy NPR. Excellent choice! 2. Mila: HER CHOICE: And this one I love for the energy. Ebo Taylor “Ayesama” Love the organ and horns, great beat going on with drums, bass and then the horns. Call and response sort of tune. 3. Kees: HIS CHOICE: I love the rawness of this also, it’s raw in a very different way from Rhainnon Gidden. Cuby & The Blizzards “Somebody Will Know Someday” Starts with just the soulful, bluesy vocals of the singer and piano, then quiet drums join in, bass is very understated. Very impassioned vocal. Nice piano solo about ½ way in. I like the quiet instrumentation with the powerful vocalist. Unexpected type of guitar solo, too. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 25 2021 at 17:19
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |