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    Posted: July 30 2023 at 06:27
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Fates Warning with Alder (can't stand Arch, sorry)
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

I actually was surprised to find that A was very satisfying to my ears when I listened to it very late last year. But I like Eddie Jobson.
Maybe the songs are alright. I suppose wouldn't know. I didn't notice anything particularly memorable back when I gave it a couple of spins. In one ear and out the other is how I (not) remember it. My main issue was/is that I just don't think that early 1980's AOR-approach becomes them. While I can enjoy radio friendly mainstream rock (which it sounded like to me) by others, it's not what I wnat from a Tull-album. To me their whole identity and what made them so attractive back when I discovered them was all gone. A to me felt more like Foreigner with a flute. But unlike most prog fans I think Tull peaked as a band ca. 1969-1972.


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I actually was surprised to find that A was very satisfying to my ears when I listened to it very late last year. But I like Eddie Jobson.
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^^I know you're asking The Dark Elf and his answer may be more in line with your tastes and preferences. But I would say that while they all have their moments, I find them (along with Storm Watch) weaker than the ones you already know. Ok, This Was is nice if you like the British Blues Revival (but with flute) bands. I'm not really into that sort of stuff. And considering my disinterest in that certain approach, I still enjoy about half of the material on their debut. Ian Anderson was already a decent tunesmith, that's for sure.


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^ Yes and no---   This Was is mostly a blues album; Warchild is excellent but more song-oriented; it's been awhile, but as I recall Too Young has both good & bad moments;  and I haven't heard A since it came out .




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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I think if you look at Jethro Tull from 1968 to 1980, they released consistently good to great albums every year, from This Was all the way to A. And with the release of the boxed sets that include numerous songs that never made it on studio releases, that makes that run all the more remarkable.

This Was (1968)
Stand Up (1969)
Benefit (1970)
Aqualung (1971)
Thick as a Brick (1972)
Living in the Past (1972)
A Passion Play (1973)
War Child (1974)
Minstrel in the Gallery (1975)
Too Old to Rock and Roll (1976)
Songs from the Wood (1977)
Heavy Horses (1978)
Storm Watch (1979)
A (1980)


mostly agree accept I've never heard the ones highlighted. Are they up to the same standard as the prog classics?
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I think if you look at Jethro Tull from 1968 to 1980, they released consistently good to great albums every year, from This Was all the way to A. And with the release of the boxed sets that include numerous songs that never made it on studio releases, that makes that run all the more remarkable.

Hell yeah--   I might add the bonus cuts are extraordinarily good, many of which should've been on the original release or given an album of their own.   'Everything in Our Lives', 'Warchild Waltz', 'Saturation', 'Paradise Steakhouse', 'King Henrys Madrigal', 'Kelpie' ... and that's just a few.


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True. I could say 1983 to present. In fact, I’m gonna go with that. IQ. is actually the most consistently great band I can think of who are still active. I love all their albums.

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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:


IQ— 1986 to present. ( sorry. The Menel albums are solid. )


No need to be sorry, they are more than solid! But why start in 1986? You’ve missed TFTLA and The Wake!!!😳
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The Flower Kings, Galahad, IQ, and Pendragon.
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Paradise Lost 1989 to present.

Vanden Plas— 1998 to present

IQ— 1986 to present. ( sorry. The Menel albums are solid. )

Fates Warning. These guys have killed with Ray Alder. 1987 to present.
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Someone mentioned Iron Maiden and if you take out the four Adrian Smith-less 90's albums what you're left with is 12 of the best albums ever recorded. My ratings are as follows (because I know you really care...):

Iron Maiden 9/10
Killers 8/10
Number Of The Beast 10/10
Piece Of Mind 10/10
Powerslave 10/10
Somewhere In Time 9/10
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son 9/10

No Prayer For The Dying 6/10
Fear Of The Dark 7/10
X Factor 5/10
Virtual XI 4/10

Brave New World 8.5/10
Dance Of Death 9.5/10
A Matter Of Life And Death 9/10
The Final Frontier 8/10
Book Of Souls 7.5/10
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IQ!

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Cellar Darling (I know, 2 albums only, but they are fantastic!)
Ayreon (although Transitus is a bit of a dip...)
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Tangerine Dream founder Edgar Froese (solo albums).
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Pentangle.

Good shout! Nothing disposable there. 


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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Death, Atheist, Opeth, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Haken, Harmonium, Wobbler, Enslaved, and from everything i've heard so far, Steve Hillage. Even though Gentle Giant had an anticlimactic ending to their career, their run from Debut-Interview is near perfection, and I even like Missing Piece.

Mad bonus points to you for Death, Atheist, Hramonium, and GG!

I'll add:
  • Gorguts
  • Nocturnus
  • Spastic Ink

It's been great watching Death and Gorguts climb our charts as of late. I haven't heard every Gorguts album yet myself, but I hear only good things!
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Steely Dan (last 2 after hiatus are hit or miss)
XTC (not a bad lp imho)
Tull (a few clunkers here and there in later years)
King Crimson (Beat and Pair being hit or miss)
Led Zep (Coda being the exception)
The Beatles ( some 'filler' on White)
The Who (until 1980)
Wobbler (they only have 5 but are all very good)
Zappa &Mothers (up t0 the early 80's they are all good)
Beefheart (other than 2 duds in 1974)



Very Good list. I'll throw in Renaissance to prog it up a bit.


Renaissance were certainly consistently good throughout the seventies but they went off the boil in the eighties, which is probably not unrelated to all the line-up changes.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

^ Well, if you see Virtual XI like a "B-movie", you might enjoy it. I at least enjoy it. I'd rate it 5/10 as for its quality, but I still enjoy it. I confess that Como Estais Amigos made me cry, a couple of times.

not a good analogy, B-movie does not refer to quality, but small budget back when people used to go to the movies to see a double feature, the main movie and a second (b) smaller budget movie. Also there are b-movies that were very well put together, with good story-telling.


I didn't intend to do an analogy, and I didn't try to say anything to be taken so lliterally. I mean, it has its charm in its own way. Except the horrendous song called The Angel and the Gambler. One of the biggest jokes in music history! LOL

I know how you assess music in general, and I really think that you're a very good listener and an "assesser". (I farted this saying.) I also think that you're more focusing on the intellectual and creative side of music. I remember you saying that you gave Nightwish's latest album a 1 star. I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm sure that I'd give it a 2 or 3 stars, at worst. Smile

Yes, you'd probably rate the last Nightwish higher than I did. For me it was a frustrating listen and I gave the album several chances because a lot of people praised it and I felt I was missing something LOL.

I enjoy the albums with Tarja, those albums were quite unique, despite the band wearing their influences on their sleeves. 
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