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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20649 |
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All good lp's ...went with Nat Health , and I never thought of UK as 'Canterbury'.
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Absolutely! Way underrated too. Magic sound with all that Fender Rhodes loveliness. A showcase at the very least.
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I was just clarifying, no need to feel bad about how it went. And feel free to disagree. It just bred some confusion due to the way you prepared the topic. For my part, I tend to think of these polls as primarily an accessory to discussion, discovery, sharing ideas, and debating to some extent. I know that my intent has very often been misunderstood when I've made topics or posts even when I've gone to great pains to go into great details, try to present a coherent mission statement or argument, and try to cover all the bases. Such topics might take an hour or more to think about and write, but still people might not get my intent and I would go down the seems to require further clarification, and more, and more route. It can be frustrating, but 10,000 words later every one is tired and moves on. Hopefully we do learn from each other, and our perspective might shift as we debate/discuss. The most important to me is that we all try to actively listen to and understand where the other is coming from. It's no fun if conversation is at cross-purposes, but it can take some work and compromise to get on the same page.
The most boring of topics often are the least controversial. And you won't find me deciding if Rush is better than Jethro Tull. I prefer Tull, but am not really a fan of either and I'm tired of the "better" type topics. I'd rather do a deep dive into Canterbury Scene music (maybe I'll learn about some Canterbury Sound bands that I haven't heard of) than talk about either of those acts. For some they're not really after conversation and like making or participating in polls for other reasons. Perhaps I'll bump one of my Canterbury Scene polls. Criticice my choices and approach if you think it irrational or demonstrates ignorance (constructively, please). Sometimes it will; hopefully I learn how better to do it next time. EDIT: I bumped my poll topic, and I do hope you take the time to participate even if you question my choices or approach (I often make mistakes other than my usual typos). I did that as part of a series and also went outside of the Canterbury Scene box across my polls to include a wider variety of music and more acts. Edited by Logan - July 23 2020 at 03:48 |
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Rick1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2020 Location: Loughborough UK Status: Offline Points: 2840 |
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Blimey. I apologise for posting this poll. Please, can everyone go back to deciding whether or not Rush is better than Jethro Tull? I thank you.
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Taken as a bunch of albums, my vote goes to Another Fine Tune You've Got Me Into. One of the tastiest jazz-fusion albums out there.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36930 |
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Not sure if you read through the thread, but originally the OP just said "I read somewhere that National Health's 'Of Queues and Cures' was the last, great Canterbury album. I want to put that one to the test with the learned membership of Prog Archives." I suggested editing the OP to make his time-frame clearer as that came up in a later post. I didn't think he'd be adding that "...of the 1970s" to what he remembered having read. I think such discussions are better done not as polls. If the question had been, "What do you think is the last great Canterbury Scene or Canterbury Scene related album of the 1970s?" then my approach would have been different. I actually wouldn't have opened it up to non-Canterbury Scene albums if we are questioning the National Health claim about Of Queues and Cures being the last great Canterbury Scene album that he read somewhere. and he "want[s] to put that one to the test with the learned membership of Prog Archives." Including ones not considered Canterbury scene seems quite irrelevant to the claim. And if doing such a poll, I think it screams for an "other" option. The claim certainly is quite different when one adds "of the 1970s" (as was edited in later), and I wish I could read the source material. By the way, Cuneiform records and the PA bio for National Health both start with the claim that "National Health was one of the last of the great "Canterbury-style" progressive rock bands." And of course the topic title still asks the question "Last great Canterbury related album?" And if I disagree that 'Of Queues and Cures' was the last great album of its ilk, I don;t think it need matter if the claim said of the 7Os or not in answering the question "what do we think is the last great Canterbury related album?" Edited by Logan - July 22 2020 at 22:14 |
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Upbeat Tango Monday ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
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National Health
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Save your breath, Drew ![]() ![]() Anyway, another vote for Of Queues and Cures, an absolute masterpiece.
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I'll save my vote for Camel in the Guildford Scene poll.
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UK's and Camel's albums are the best, but neither is Canterbury scene.
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Voted UK but don't think of them as Canterbury AT ALL. Same with several other choices here. Gilgamesh or National Health should get the votes.
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Henry Cow
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Misleading title as there have been just as many great Canterbury-related releases in the last 10-20 years.
Of the ones posted, only Gilgamesh and National Health retain any resemblance to the musical styles that started it all (early Soft Machine, Caravan, Uriel, & Egg). Edited by BrufordFreak - July 22 2020 at 08:07 |
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He should have probably put that in the title.
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Same here. I never thought of them as Canterbury.
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Have to agree in both cases, Canterbury is still alive though in a lesser form, UK's debut is a long long way from Canterbury (Jobson doesn't do whimsy), Henry Cow's only Canterbury related album is Leg End. I'd probably pick something by The Muffins or Antique Seeking Nuns from the more modern stuff. Of those offered I'll pick Western Culture as it's top 10 all-time for me (though purely RIO/Avant), just ahead of the superb Of Queues and Cures. Henry Cow > National Health > Gilgamesh > Gong
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12320 |
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From this list, Health. One of the best bands and best albums ever made.
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Rick1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2020 Location: Loughborough UK Status: Offline Points: 2840 |
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See discussion earlier in thread.... |
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