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HolyMoly wrote:

it was the first song worked on, on the first day of the Revolver sessions. John had the idea for a song that sounded like he was the Dalai Lama chanting from a mountaintop. Paul came in later with a bunch of weird tape noises he’d made at home. John is commonly credited for the song (despite the ever-present Lennon/McCartney byline), but it was a team effort - even (especially) on the part of George Martin and Geoff Emerick on the production side.

I know that.

MortSahlFan wrote:

That's John's..

It is written by John, but Paul had a big influence on its sound, f.e. he came up with Ringo's drum pattern. The tape loops were also his idea (inspired by Stockhausen's Gesang der Jünglinge).

Edited by The Anders - April 11 2020 at 14:14

The Anders wrote:

and the inventive soundscape f.e. of "Tomorrow Never Knows" was very much his merit.

That's John's..

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Paul McCartney.

There seems to be a lot of prejudice towards him, for instance with cliched stereotypes of him being the writer of superficial "grandmother pop", not being artsy enough and so on. For sure, he has written songs like "When I'm Sixty Four", "Obla Di Obla Da" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer", but also a lot of work that does not live up to that. After all he was the one most interested in avant-garde during their Revolver-Sgt. Pepper period, and the inventive soundscape f.e. of "Tomorrow Never Knows" was very much his merit.

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Catcher10 wrote:

I think people CLEARLY understand who Roger Waters is, no misunderstanding with him. He's still a doosh...even if you don't understand him.

You don't like humanitarians who risk their lives/career to help the world...

OK..

If Roger Waters is a humanitarian helping the world then Ted Bundy was a feminist Ermm

As far as misunderstood goes, Arthur Brown never escaped from the 'God of Hellfire' persona that was erected around him. In reality he's a deeply spiritual, egalitarian, didactic (albeit) shamanic individual that members of the Manson family once sent death threats.

Edited by ExittheLemming - April 11 2020 at 02:08

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Edited by moshkito - April 11 2020 at 01:29

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MortSahlFan wrote:

Catcher10 wrote:

I think people CLEARLY understand who Roger Waters is, no misunderstanding with him. He's still a doosh...even if you don't understand him.

You don't like humanitarians who risk their lives/career to help the world...

OK..

What on earth are u talking about?? Clearly you need to take Roger off some proverbial pedestal you have erected of him in your house. There are mountains of humanitarians I would chose over someone like Roger Waters, he is not even in the realm of thinking for such a title.... LOL

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He is a musician and entertainer.....

CosmicVibration wrote:

Black Sabbath fits the bill..The lyrics don’t match the satanic persona that a lot of people have about them. Check
out Master of Reality for instance.

“They should realize before they criticize
That God is the only way to love”

I certainly can find Ozzy Osbourne to be easily misunderstood when I listen to interviews of him. ;)

A lot of those so-called Satanic groups are not really Satanic, it's just for show, a marketing ploy. That said, Black Sabbath repeatedly denied being Satanists. Aside from dark themes in the music, with a name like Black Sabbath, it's hardly suprising that people would associate the band with satanism (the guitarist, Tony Iommi, was going for scary with that name). Apparently they wanted to call the band Earth, but it was taken, so they named it after the Mario Brava horror/fantasy anthology film Black Sabbath.

As for that song, "After Forever", the lyrics were written by one brought up in the Catholic faith (the bassist Geezer Butler). This is what he said about the song in an interview with Bass Guitar Magazine:

Originally posted by Geezer Butler (said)

Geezer Butler (said) wrote:

A lot of it was because of the situation in Northern Ireland at the time. There were a lot of religious troubles between the Protestants against the Catholics. I was brought up strictly Catholic and I guess I was naive in thinking that religion shouldn't be fought over...

I always felt that God and Jesus wanted us to love each other. It was just a bad time in Northern Ireland, setting bombs off in England and such. We all believed in Jesus - and yet people were killing each other over it. To me it was just ridiculous. I thought that if God could see us killing each other in his name, he'd be disgusted.

Ozzy Osbourne has declared himself a Christian (CofE methinks) and has said that he prays before every performance (to God, not to that Devilish lackey) at some time.

I think a lot of actual Satanists are really misunderstood. Many don't believe in Satan at all. A lot are atheists/ agnostic, and it's more of s symbolic gesture, and with some an F.U. to fundamentalist/ evangelical Christians, and other religious types, as they know it's going to be provocative and offensive to some -- various choose to "own" the Satanist label. Of course part of it is a reaction to the intolerance of many of the religious. There are many strands of Satanism. I enjoyed the documentary on Netflix "Hail Satan?" By the way, I would like to think of myself as a pretty tolerant individual, but I'm not very tolerant of the intolerant (including my own intolerance sometimes), and am quite judgmental of the judgmental (including my own judgmentalishness sometimes).

Edited by Logan - April 04 2020 at 12:18

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