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progaardvark wrote:

Be safe Lorenzo. Your message needs to be heard by our leaders. Be safe Prog Archivers and take the necessary precautions to protect yourselves.

This is my last day at work. I will be working from home starting next week. We're going to try and ride this one out and hope a vaccine arrives sooner than later. The U.S. may be 1-2 weeks behind Italy. Drastic actions need to be taken soon before our hospitals become overwhelmed.

Everyone remember: SOCIAL DISTANCING

Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.

jamesbaldwin wrote:

Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Heartbreaking to hear in Italy, hospitals/doctors refuse to treat old people who have symptoms of this virus.

Well, not exactly. Doctors dont refuse to treat old people.

The problem is that this virus creates in a great number of subjects pneumonia that may require intensive therapy that is artificial respiration. Each state has its own number of places in intensive therapy, it depends on public health places. In Italy, due to the increase in private health, public health has been partly dismantled, and so in the North are almost saturated intensive therapy places. For now doctors deny that for missing places in intensive therapy they do a selection based on age but in some cases it could be made.

What we could use are those easy-use ventilators they send you home with after a hospital stay, so when you're lying down fluid doesn't start to form in the lungs. They're easy, it's just a canister with a hose connected & mouthpiece you use every so often to make sure the lungs are being worked.

It ain't rocket science.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

SteveG wrote:

Where did this list come from? Fox News?

This one is largely in line with what Lorenzo is saying. I'm on a statisticians' mailing list where statisticians and some epidemiologists have discussed this, and it seems all are fine with it. The data is in line with what's published by official sources. Arguments seem to hold water. It's very long and statistical, but makes a lot of sense.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

Jokes on you! I stay home all the time anyway! Be safe, peeps.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021

timothy leary wrote:

Catcher10 wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

STANFORD HOSPITAL BOARD INTERNAL MESSAGE:
Read and understand

The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.

Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!

THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

Possible to provide the link?

good catch.......https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/12/21177262/coronavirus-tip-fake-list-stanford-hoax-covid-19

Misinformation is more contagious than any disease these days.

My prog band - Boreal Kinship

Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Heartbreaking to hear in Italy, hospitals/doctors refuse to treat old people who have symptoms of this virus.

Well, not exactly. Doctors dont refuse to treat old people.

The problem is that this virus creates in a great number of subjects pneumonia that may require intensive therapy that is artificial respiration. Each state has its own number of places in intensive therapy, it depends on public health places. In Italy, due to the increase in private health, public health has been partly dismantled, and so in the North are almost saturated intensive therapy places. For now doctors deny that for missing places in intensive therapy they do a selection based on age but in some cases it could be made.

Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.

timothy leary wrote:

Catcher10 wrote:

"None of these tips have anything to do with reality; it is dangerous misinformation.

Stanford confirmed the message did not come from the university."

Confused

Here in Lilliwaup we are just staying home. Thanks for debunking that.

No worries...here in Puyallup, I'm staying home!

Catcher10 wrote:

"None of these tips have anything to do with reality; it is dangerous misinformation.

Stanford confirmed the message did not come from the university."

Confused

Here in Lilliwaup we are just staying home. Thanks for debunking that.

Great info, thank you Tim.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

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