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richardh
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Posted: October 07 2019 at 00:14 |
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I haven't heard this particular album but I do have a couple of his albums. Apparently he is only included as a joint artist with Brendan Eyre and it's only the album Northlands that is included ( and it's quite highly rated!). This is just an oversight in my opinion.
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siLLy puPPy
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^ thanks, Logan. Seems to be a brand new development that i've never experienced before. It seems to only work when i used Safari as the browser, not FireFox
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Logan
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I've had problems with SQL injection before due to my security software, it can be an add-on of yours/ something you've downloaded/ adware. My problem was with something called btdefender, or bitdefender, you seem to have a problem with MyCouponsmart. See: https://applehelpwriter.com/2019/05/25/how-to-remove-mycouponsmart-on-macos/ To avoid such injection, I have had to go into my Member Control Panel, then click on Forum preferences, and then disable the WYSIWYG post editor. I've helped some people with this advice who weren't able to remove the programs that were causing the injection. |
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BrufordFreak
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I just discovered that Tony Patterson's 2016 solo release, Equations of Meaning was rejected for submission despite the fact that it was originally posted on PA under the "Tony Patterson (Regenesis, Steve Hackett, Nick Magnus)& Brendan Eyre (Nine Stones Close, Riversea)" entry and despite including some of the most gorgeous Neo-1977 Genesis/Ant Phillips/Alan Parsons Project music I've ever heard and despite having the participation of fellow prog artists Nick Magnus, Andy Gray (Tori Amos and far too many other artists and songs to list), Adrian Jones (Nine Stones Close, Jet Black Sea, Gjallarhorn, Riversea), and Brendan Eyre.
I find it difficult to fathom anyone hearing this album not feeling as if they were totally immersed in the synth and 12-string washes of "Entangled" or "Afterglow" or some of Ant's "Private Parts & Pieces" or something from APP's I Robot. To me it feels as if I'm back in the smoke-filled concert hall listening to Genesis in March of 1977 (though the last song is pure America "I Need You"). Strange ...
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siLLy puPPy
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I have no friggin idea why all that code gibberish has started to appear on my posts. Another lingering mystery on PA< id="_webhelper_source" ="" value=""SOURCE":"MM-9999","BRAND":"MyCouponsmart"">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=fts&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=pluginew&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=adgoal&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=ga&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09&components=fts,pluginew,adgoal,ga,au,qa">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=au&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=qa&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="https://auctioneer.50million.club/s/offer-manager.js?2019-10-5-19">< ="//service.securesrv12.com/servicejs/components/ga/?source=MM-9999&isn=4&components=fts,pluginew,adgoal,ga,au,qa&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09" style="display: none;">
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^ yeah, you're right. KC has just about as many as the GD.< id="_webhelper_source" ="" value=""SOURCE":"MM-9999","BRAND":"MyCouponsmart"">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=fts&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=pluginew&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=adgoal&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=ga&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09&components=fts,pluginew,adgoal,ga,au,qa">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=au&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//secure.mycouponsmartmac.com/servicejs/components/js/?key=qa&source=MM-9999&isn=4&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09">< ="//service.securesrv12.com/servicejs/components/ga/?source=MM-9999&isn=4&components=fts,pluginew,adgoal,ga,au,qa&group=U2lsWC9VdmZKVmt6am9CbHNGVHBlZz09" style="display: none;">< ="https://auctioneer.50million.club/s/offer-manager.js?2019-10-5-19">
Personally i've never heard a single thing from the Dead that would warrant them being included on a prog website although i admit i'm not a fan and have only a limited sampling however i do own their major albums. One thing i've learned while i've been involved on the PSIKE team is how blurry the whole psych rock thing can be. I mean psychedelic rock isn't progressive in its own right. It needs that extra oomf to cross the line. I understand the criticism about a lot of Krautrock bands here. I mean how is Neu! progressive rock? It's cool music but to me it's experimental electronic rock not exactly prog. Many of the German bands are somehow blurry. Kraftwerk? How is that progressive? Just sounds like experimental to me. So if the Dead ever comes to the PSIKE team i'll emphatically vote NO. I mean there are a lot of artists out there who DO have a prog album in their canon including Judas Priest. Personally i'd rather just delete artists who really don't belong here any longer than add similar cases but that's just me. I understand that deleting artists is not that easy so we're stuck with artists like Coil and Triumph (i like both BTW). And all i can say is thank god i'm not the one who had to add all those KC live albums! Oh and big clappy hands for Warthur who has been covering a lot of those live albums. I'm totally ignorant for the majority of their live releases.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Are all King Crimson live albums on here though? I know they don't have as many as the Dead but they do have a lot.
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Atavachron
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^ Oh if only that were the reason |
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Also the Grateful Dead will NEVER be included here because NOBODY is going to add all one million live albums
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^ Judas Priest is not here. I don't find Santana progressive enough either but they did have a few moments and i could see them more as prog related but oh well!
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Manuel
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Me too. If Santana and Judas Priest are in here,Why not these amazing bands that pushed the music far beyond the limits of their times?
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octopus-4
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I quite agree on all the 4 above.
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Magmatt
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it's easy to miss some regional bands that maybe only had limited releases on recordings. Here's one from the Toronto area called Garfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpO7I0-A8ik Matt |
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chopper
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Well not all proposed bands get added, but there's no point in moaning about a band not being on PA if you're not prepared to propose them. That is the only way a band is going to be added.
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Lewian
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It doesn't always work like this.
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Cristi
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I was thiking the same thing.
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chopper
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I don't get this, instead of raising questions about bands that haven't been added, why don't you just propose them in the New Bands section?
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presdoug
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It is odd that Giger Lenz Marron are not included in Jazz-rock fusion. And Helmut Koellen as either Prog-Related or Crossover Prog should be included.
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Psychedelic Paul
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@BaldJean:- I'm a big fan of Psychedelic Rock, as you can probably guess from my username, and I like all of those bands you mentioned, including Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Big Brother & the Holding Company, 13th Floor Elevators & Steppenwolf, but I don't believe any of those artists should be included on Prog Archives, simply because they're not Prog-Rock. Although Psychedelic Rock is considered a forerunner of Progressive Rock, there are distinct and discernible differences between the two very different genres of music.
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Intruder
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I've been pulling for the Dead's inclusion since my first days on the site - the only persuasive argument I've come across against having them on the site has been that they've released so much material over their 50-plus years that it would be just too overwhelming and unwieldy to manage......and that those overwhelming and unwieldy Deadheads would pour onto the site changing the PA Top 100 albums to simply become a list of 100 dubiously dubbed Dead shows.
Simply put, they are the epitome of progressive rock - cosmic pioneers who've had their hands in the development of so many genres included here on PA: psychedelic rock; space rock; jazz fusion; prog folk; avant-prog; progressive electronic; eclectic prog.....the list goes on! I've no horse in this race, but I do believe that a whole bunch of prog-lovin' folks would love to get better acquainted with the Dead and PA - as always - is an excellent source for just such info. Everyone's a winner! Would love to hear more arguments against their inclusion - maybe I'm missing something.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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