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Sam Fire
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Topic: Fav black metal bands Posted: October 06 2005 at 18:30 |
I kind of like black metal, I got some from an aquaintance. My favorite band so far is an American band called Windam Hell. Their album "Reflective Depths Imbibe" is really quite amazing, IMHO. I also like (I blush to admit) Cradle of Filth, which is, in fact, fake black metal, so that makes me a BM poser  . But prog is way better anyhows...
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 17:53 |
to be honest.. i dont know anything about black metal
i have no idea 
but... im not interested to dig it
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Toob-Wurm
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 20:33 |
You sure about that? I like my blood cold.
Anyway:
I like Burzum & Darkthrone.
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Logos
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 08:13 |
Satyricon!! f**king amazing band!
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Wolf Spider
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 01:29 |
bah, some black metal is tolerable instrumentally.... but then the "vocals" begin....
honestly... my arse has a better voice than black metal vocalists.
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ulver982
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 23:56 |
It's nice to see some black metalers on here
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ulver982
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 23:50 |
Satyricon!
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Kohllapse
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:26 |


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Logos
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:20 |
Manunkind wrote:
But the Path of Sorrow is long, so you'd need a thermos bottle to keep the blood warm, and I don't think thermos bottles are black metal... |
A herd of goats and an axe will do just fine.
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Manunkind
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:16 |
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Logos
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:14 |
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Manunkind
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:00 |
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Logos
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 07:57 |
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Manunkind
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 07:49 |
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Logos
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 07:45 |
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Manunkind
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Posted: September 25 2005 at 06:27 |
Logos wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
Do you think they'd change their minds if they heard early Mayhem, Darkthrone, Averse Sefira, Marduk, Krieg, Dark Funeral, Enthroned or the thousands of other real black metal bands ? |
No, they wouldn't, and that pisses me off even more. People wouldn't recognize a f**king black metal masterpiece like Anthems or De Mysteriis even if it kicked them in the arse.
"De Mysteriis..." has some really cool riffs . And while the drum parts in Darkthrone are probably the easiest in the world, I'm sure no one would be able to play them the way Fenriz does.
Manunkind wrote:
I'm sometimes in the mood for some black metal, but then it's not true black metal, it's beautifully melodic stuff like "At the Heart of Winter" by Immortal or the crazyiness of Mayhem's "Grand Declaration of War". I can listen to the true, raw stuff, but I don't really enjoy it (anymore ). |
Immortal and Mayhem are probably as "true" as it gets..
"A Grand..." is too techy and polished. As for Immortal - "Bilzzard Beasts" is almost death metal; "At the Heart..." is quite 70s hard rock in its vibe and focus on melody (of course it's still very much a metal album, only not a black metal one). The later stuff... from the little I heard, it is VERY catchy and polished. So both bands have albums in their output that aren't as true BM as it gets...
I think that true BM tolerates some experimentation, but in the end it still has to be raw and violent. I'm quite strict here - Mayhem, Darkthrone, Burzum, early Immortal, early Satyricon, Taake are BM, so is the 'Swedish school' (Marduk, Dark Funeral, Setherial etc.) but e.g. Dissection and Mork Gryning? I know Jon from Dissection is a fanatic, but his music was simply too melodic . Not that it really matters, anyway...
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Death metal flattens 99% of BM anyway . |
If this is a joke, it's not funny. If you're serious, I'm just sad.
OK, so maybe three DM bands in a hundred don't exactly flatten black metal, they just knock it out . And it's quite doubtful if Deicide still play death metal, so don't start here .
But the rest of what I wrote is no joke; it's very true. You may carry on Walking the Path of Sorrow, Logos .
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ulver982
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 21:19 |
I agree Logos!
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Logos
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 16:18 |
Manunkind wrote:
Do you think they'd change their minds if they heard early Mayhem, Darkthrone, Averse Sefira, Marduk, Krieg, Dark Funeral, Enthroned or the thousands of other real black metal bands ? |
No, they wouldn't, and that pisses me off even more. People wouldn't recognize a f**king black metal masterpiece like Anthems or De Mysteriis even if it kicked them in the arse.
Manunkind wrote:
I'm sometimes in the mood for some black metal, but then it's not true black metal, it's beautifully melodic stuff like "At the Heart of Winter" by Immortal or the crazyiness of Mayhem's "Grand Declaration of War". I can listen to the true, raw stuff, but I don't really enjoy it (anymore ). |
Immortal and Mayhem are probably as "true" as it gets..
Manunkind wrote:
Death metal flattens 99% of BM anyway . |
If this is a joke, it's not funny. If you're serious, I'm just sad.
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Manunkind
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 15:56 |
Logos wrote:
And most of the black metal bashers I know have never even heard real black metal; most base their opinions on crappy wannabe-black bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth. Frankly it drives me nuts. |
Do you think they'd change their minds if they heard early Mayhem, Darkthrone, Averse Sefira, Marduk, Krieg, Dark Funeral, Enthroned or the thousands of other real black metal bands ?
I'm sometimes in the mood for some black metal, but then it's not true black metal, it's beautifully melodic stuff like "At the Heart of Winter" by Immortal or the crazyiness of Mayhem's "Grand Declaration of War". I can listen to the true, raw stuff, but I don't really enjoy it (anymore ).
Death metal flattens 99% of BM anyway .
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