WORST Octavarium Song

The Answer Lies Within. Yuk!

Only song I didn't care for was The Answer Lies Within

Over all though I think its a great album IMHO.

The Answer Lies Within. I absolutely love all the songs on the album (yes, even "I walk beside you"), but this is the one that I just have to skip on the CD player when it reaches it.

I actually thought most of the album, bar the title track, was quite cheesy, but 'I Walk Beside You' was just plain bad...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Wolf Spider wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: BTW: The most alarming signal that the song is bad is that most people who don't like Prog Metal (and DT in particular) say that they like that song ... it simply isn't DT. It's against everything that I&W, Awake or Scenes stand for. Sorry dude my favoriute DT album is Train Of Thought   sorry ... and ToT and 6DoIT of course.

Ha, that`s better. OK, I get your point but I still think Octavarium is one of their best songs
 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: BTW: The most alarming signal that the song is bad is that most people who don't like Prog Metal (and DT in particular) say that they like that song ... it simply isn't DT. It's against everything that I&W, Awake or Scenes stand for.

Sorry dude my favoriute DT album is Train Of Thought
 

Octavarium is a dull song- takes WAY too long to get going. I always fast forward the first 10 minutes or so.

Wolf Spider wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: MY vote goes to Octavarium ... they could have done the song in 10 minutes, but they had to add the damn noodling PF references in the beginning, the boring and needlessly complex chord progressions in the second part and the pompous ending ... Please tell me this is a joke Octavarium is one of their best songs ever! And it`s not dull

It's not a joke ... maybe I exaggerated a bit, but I really think that it's the worst song on the album.

• The noodling on the keyboard in the beginning is nice, but uncalled for.
• The following Shine On You Crazy Diamond reference also makes no sense to me. Dream Theater's other albums contain little (if any) PF references, so what's the point? Were they trying to say "Listen to this, we can sound like PF if we want to"?
• Then the vocals kick in ... and that part has overly complex chord progressions. In my subjective opinion the complexity is also uncalled for here. It's like they were trying to make this the most complex "simple" song ever.
• After that a complex riff on the bass introduces the first part of the song that I really like. I really like how the epic evolves from here, and everything is alright until the "outro".
• In the outro we essentially get the noodling from the beginning on the guitar.

Mind you, I actually like the album AND the song. It's just not as good as their other albums. I'd rate Octavarium 3 stars as an album and 2 stars as a song.

BTW: The most alarming signal that the song is bad is that most people who don't like Prog Metal (and DT in particular) say that they like that song ... it simply isn't DT. It's against everything that I&W, Awake or Scenes stand for.

Edited by MikeEnRegalia

MY vote goes to Octavarium ... they could have done the song in 10 minutes, but they had to add the damn noodling PF references in the beginning, the boring and needlessly complex chord progressions in the second part and the pompous ending ...

I Walk Beside You was bad.