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Topic: WORST Octavarium Song

Posted By: eriksalkeld
Subject: WORST Octavarium Song
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 18:16

I've rated this album with 3 stars.

I think the song "Octavarium" is a magnificent piece of music, even though you can easily recognize all the direct influences it have from some 70's prog dinosaours.

All the rest of the album is almost disposable, with the exception of two good prog metal songs ("The Root of all Evil" and "Panic Attack") and an O.K. one ("Sacrificed Sons").

IMO the one song is almost HORRIBLE is "These Walls". Now's your turn, make your choice NOW!.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 18:41

The Answer Lies Within for me. cheesy, poppy ballad

Still not as bad as hollow years. backstreet boys could have done that one

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 18:47

I walk beside you does nothing for me.

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 18:58

I walk Beside You and The Answer Lies Within

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Posted By: Hawkeye
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 19:11

Root of all evil- SUCKY 1st track- the 2nd one is sucky as well

Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 20:11

These Walls isn't that great, but Dream Theater still owns!

Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 20:14

i think it's a tie between them all!

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 23:13

I don't really care for These Walls,I Walk Beside You and The Answer Lies Within.But I voted for These Walls.

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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 23:16

I Walk Beside You.

Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 23:46

I like them all.

Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 04:20

I Walk Beside You was bad.

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:17

I like this album but "Never Enough" is the only song that leaves me stone cold

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:20

MY vote goes to Octavarium ... they could have done the song in 10 minutes, but they had to add the damn noodling PF references in the beginning, the boring and needlessly complex chord progressions in the second part and the pompous ending ...

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:22

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

MY vote goes to Octavarium ... they could have done the song in 10 minutes, but they had to add the damn noodling PF references in the beginning, the boring and needlessly complex chord progressions in the second part and the pompous ending ...

Please tell me this is a joke

Octavarium is one of their best songs ever! And it`s not dull

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 08:11

Wolf Spider wrote:

Please tell me this is a joke

Octavarium is one of their best songs ever! And it`s not dull

It's not a joke ... maybe I exaggerated a bit, but I really think that it's the worst song on the album.

The noodling on the keyboard in the beginning is nice, but uncalled for.
The following Shine On You Crazy Diamond reference also makes no sense to me. Dream Theater's other albums contain little (if any) PF references, so what's the point? Were they trying to say "Listen to this, we can sound like PF if we want to"?
Then the vocals kick in ... and that part has overly complex chord progressions. In my subjective opinion the complexity is also uncalled for here. It's like they were trying to make this the most complex "simple" song ever.
After that a complex riff on the bass introduces the first part of the song that I really like. I really like how the epic evolves from here, and everything is alright until the "outro".
In the outro we essentially get the noodling from the beginning on the guitar.

Mind you, I actually like the album AND the song. It's just not as good as their other albums. I'd rate Octavarium 3 stars as an album and 2 stars as a song.

BTW: The most alarming signal that the song is bad is that most people who don't like Prog Metal (and DT in particular) say that they like that song ... it simply isn't DT. It's against everything that I&W, Awake or Scenes stand for.

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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 09:03

Wolf Spider wrote:

I like this album but "Never Enough" is the only song that leaves me stone cold

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 13:09

Octavarium is a dull song- takes WAY too long to get going. I always fast forward the first 10 minutes or so.

Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 14:03

Octavarium is my favourite!

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 14:41

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Sorry dude my favoriute DT album is Train Of Thought

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 14:51

Wolf Spider wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Sorry dude my favoriute DT album is Train Of Thought

sorry ... and ToT and 6DoIT of course.

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:17

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Wolf Spider wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Sorry dude my favoriute DT album is Train Of Thought

sorry ... and ToT and 6DoIT of course.

Ha, that`s better

. OK, I get your point but I still think Octavarium is one of their best songs

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:22

^ of course I may be wrong ... it's just my opinion.

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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:42

I actually thought most of the album, bar the title track, was quite cheesy, but 'I Walk Beside You' was just plain bad...

Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 03:51

I Walk Beside You gets my vote too ... IMO, the title track is clearly the best

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Posted By: el_Sethro
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 20:24

The Answer Lies Within. I absolutely love all the songs on the album (yes, even "I walk beside you"), but this is the one that I just have to skip on the CD player when it reaches it.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 20:36

The Awser lies within!...CRAPPY!!!! CHEESY...not my kind of song, the others are quite good for me...even the U2ish I walk beside you

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Posted By: TheAnalogKid
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 20:38

Only song I didn't care for was The Answer Lies Within

Over all though I think its a great album IMHO.

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Posted By: charismaslover
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 08:27

I Walk Beside You does nothing for me,...caught me off guard when I first heard it.

Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 09:32

The Answer Lies Within. Yuk!

Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 23:36

I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I must also give my vote to I Walk Beside You, although Never Enough and Sacrificed Sons didn't do much for me either. Even though it's generic and poppy, I like These Walls for some reason.