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ProfPanglos 
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: July 25 2017 Location: Austin, Texas Status: Offline Points: 624 |
 Topic: For those who give a s**tPosted: March 13 2018 at 15:17 |
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I voted "Other."
When I look at the state of things, my biggest concern is societal/cultural mental health. In a nutshell, I believe there is a near-psychotic break with reality happening en masse. Many people are no longer able to recognize a linkage between cause and effect; between actions and consequences. Taking personal responsibility for one's own poor choices/decisions is becoming rarer with each passing day. Add to that, the popular (but completely wrong) notion that one can "redefine" reality to suit themselves. It's a recipe for disaster, and we're definitely starting to reap what we've sown.
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Frenetic Zetetic
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
Posted: March 03 2018 at 13:51 |
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Erosion of civil liberties sums it up nicely!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 03:47 |
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Both are absolutely sickening of course, but come under "Human rights abuses" I would say. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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twseel
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Joined: December 15 2012 Location: abroad Status: Offline Points: 22767 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 03:28 |
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condor
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 24 2005 Location: Norwich Status: Offline Points: 1069 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 22:42 |
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How about slavery and sex trafficking?
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Peter
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 21:18 |
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Climate change and the multiple negative effects of tech addiction throughout an entire generation.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 17:26 |
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The problems are not due to overpopulation but rather to the overall vibration of the heart. |
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The Dark Elf
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VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13232 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 17:11 |
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Agreed. I would suggest sending condoms to third world countries instead of food, or give women Long-Acting Reversible Contraceptives (like a hormonal contraceptive implant) before they can get foodstuffs. I am sick and tired of seeing babies die of starvation and malnutrition because the parents (who are also starving) won't desist from sexual activity or practice safe sex because of superstitions or ignorance. Or both. Make birth control a precondition to aid. Climate change is directly related in many cases to overpopulation and overuse/erosion of land. You'd make a sizable dent in much of the world's issues by dropping anticipated human populations in a significant manner. I am not advocating killing the living.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 05:28 |
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In times of economic decline, you always see a rise of the right, as the people look for scapegoats for the problems. By and large people are not intelligent or informed enough to understand the economics and government policy that leads to the problem, and helped by a compliant media, our leaders are able to divert attention from their unhealthy symbiotic relationship with the banking industry, and onto immigrant populations, and the poor. If I were more intelligent and better educated - and had more time! - I'd be interested in studying the social psychology that underpins the kind of challenges we're seeing globally. This article is worth a read. It's pretty good by BBC standards, and far more candid about such a dark subject than you would expect a western state broadcaster to be. BBC - How western civilization could collapse The wealth divide creating ill feeling and class division, the passing on of blame to those of other ethnicities, religions or nationalaties instead of the architects of the problems themselves and of course the rejection of evidence based fact in favour of emotionally charged opinions based on nothing but media reportage, all indictors of a civilization moving very much in the wrong direction. It seems not to have happened by accident IMO. There appears to have been a gargantuan move on the part of governments and corporations to ensure the hoarding of wealth at the top of the pile, and the deliberate and strategic witholding of money from where it's actually needed. It appears they are trying to manufacture class division, racial tension and mistrust. That's before we even get onto Brexit, the Middle East, Russia and North Korea. Tick tock tick tock tick tock... |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Man With Hat
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:36 |
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From the list The rise of the far right/collpase of liberalism, but this is my answer for in general. Not just too many humans, but especially the worst qualities of humanity that bubble up and stick with large swathes of stupid/ignorant public. Humanity really is just a waste of universal processing power.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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scruffydragon
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Joined: February 09 2008 Location: trowbridge Status: Offline Points: 250 |
Posted: January 07 2018 at 09:51 |
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Certainly the erosion of Civil Liberties after Brexit. Possibly some of the first to go are workers rights when the government wants to make Britain more profitable.
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bertolino
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Joined: March 09 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 132 |
Posted: December 05 2017 at 14:50 |
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Mr Jayem your thoughts may well be enchanting my next nights; uplifting comments don't seem so much my "apanage" as i read this;
About the small sentences, it's your smallest one which perplexed me the most indeed... concerts are nice things mostly of my past, as i've now to children, and as they are two small swimming machines, my time is well spent. But who knows, a Magma 50th would be in order; and i dream of a last Latimer's Camel concert. Guy Leblanc's death prevent me from the joy of seeing to Quebecois with him, but Pete Jones on keys would be such a feast. Any Steve Hackett could be another occasion, as i missed the last passage but brought my eleven years old son to the preceding one. This won't be in Lausanne though! Amicalement
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 21 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 997 |
Posted: December 05 2017 at 10:39 |
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Enchanté moi je suis resté autour de Lausanne, ayant quitté la Suisse 8 bons mois et quasi rien d'autre... On se croisera peut-être à un concert bientôt !
Mr Bertolino I can only wish you to get comments as uplifting as yours. I can't help noticing that concise sentences could turn out to be eco-friendly, provided readers didn't spend too much time trying to figure out what those sentences mean, and cause the loss of many precious watts in doing so... The less one can find edited posts of mine, the more you're right about my being unassuming, except if none of those posts was edited (in which case it would mean I lied). Good luck to the Mars exploring team to be; and if you're to sleep again at the deciphering of this very post, I wish you the best of dreams !!
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bertolino
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Joined: March 09 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 132 |
Posted: December 05 2017 at 01:55 |
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I slept on your english expressed point... in short it's a thing of wonder and i'm quite jealous of your hability to express yourself in anything else that your mother tongue. At the end i suppose that what leads to our different points of view on the subject (and your unassuming comment in french for that matter!) is that i'm an irredeemable optimist. You're still a great talk in such a few words... |
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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bertolino
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Joined: March 09 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 132 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 14:09 |
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Oh Génial deux francophones qui tentent de se parler en anglais! A bien y penser çà doit arriver souvent... Moi c'est Québécois de Paris, qui dit mieux... Apologies to you all , when two french speaking persons try to discuss in english and are not sure of what they say or understand of the other... stange things can happen on Prog Archives...
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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Vompatti
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VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67457 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 13:05 |
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From this list, the erosion of civil liberties, by a wide margin. Outside the list, overpopulation and the destruction of nature.
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AZF
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Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 1079 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 12:52 |
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Erosion of civil liberties from that list.
"We must not let terrorism disrupt our way of life!". No, because that's the governments job! And as a childless unmarried male I'm GLAD the government think I'm a threat!! |
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jayem
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Joined: June 21 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 997 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 09:12 |
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Je reconnais devoir souvent corriger mes posts et n'en finis pas de me planter... À quand un Progarchives en français quoique ! Même dans ma langue maternelle ça coince souvent...
Greatness happens to survive through generations, but many kids from people called great fail as well, so to me if humanity can't succeed (and we have to agree on how to define success) as the ultimate specie on Earth, it's unlikely it will anywhere else. |
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bertolino
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Joined: March 09 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 132 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:43 |
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Oups, for this one , as mainly french speaking and not being sure of the many levels of cleverness of your simple remark , i submitted it to Google translator... Still not satisfied As long as i can guess it i will try to comment that hopefully only the better ones would reach for the stars, and not the richest. Otherwise we're bound for the extinction of the whole universe... |
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
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Joined: June 21 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 997 |
Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:27 |
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Earth being the only place where humans can't behave, right ?...
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