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Simkim
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Topic: Coltrane? Posted: September 18 2005 at 00:52 |
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Just three words: A love supreme
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:39 | ||
I remember the first time I heard a song by John Zorn, it was from his album Naked City, and I just thought "Wow! It sounds like the speed was edited in the studio, I can't believe these guys play that fast!....." |
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Joren
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Posted: September 09 2005 at 07:10 | ||
I am hoping he will once be added... shhhh! |
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Fantômas
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
Posted: September 08 2005 at 15:19 | ||
There are 3 gods in music: Brian Eno, Mike Patton and John Zorn. Frank
Zappa is ZEUS, and the rest of genius are Semi-gods and heroes!
A time ago I proposed Zorn's addition, yeah! |
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And above all, is punk
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Joren
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Posted: September 08 2005 at 04:57 | ||
Jan Dukes De Grey? Let's go check it out!
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20239 |
Posted: September 07 2005 at 08:20 | ||
On a completely different note , I just opened a thread on Jan Dukes De Grey in the main forum! My latest find , and I will register the claim as soon as I run to the golrush office. A 24 carat gem. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Joren
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 07:37 | ||
If ANYONE is jazz for progheads, then it's ZORN. Especially if you like Zappa, Beefheart, and Patton's projects! (Zorn produced Bungles first album and he released Patton albums on his Tzadik label) Of course Coltrane is amazing as well! |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 07:27 | ||
Here goes Joren again!!! But you are right, though, that he should be included in this future probable section jazz for progheads. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Joren
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 05:47 | ||
J O H N Z O R N
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 05:45 | ||
Yep! I have heard only one OREGON album, which was good. I have found mostly Ralph's solomaterial from finnish libraries... Some of his works are very elitistic, but some are aslo "nice and accessible". Two titles I mentioned before have synths and great guitarwork in them, so they sound little "proggish".
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 05:28 | ||
If you are ti include Ralph Towner than you might want to include Oregon! Classic acoustic fusion music of the 70's. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 05:12 | ||
Other jazz albums that might please the ear of a prog rock listener's ears, might be some PAT METHENY's albums ("Wichita..." with MAYS) and RALPH TOWNER's works ("Blue Sun" f.ex.). |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20239 |
Posted: September 07 2005 at 04:32 | ||
Right on Chris. I saw McCoy Tyner live in ghent mid-july with Ravi Coltrane (John's son) and this was a very moving/emotive concert for everyone including on stage. If you listen well to some of his solo work (Sahara and A Song For My Lady, he plays dual lead piano - meaning he plays lead with his left hand also - as most players use that hand to a rythmic role)
Sadly the superb drummer Evans of the mythic quartet died last year. I have no idea what bassist garrison is up to, though! he was dwarved by the rest of the musicians though! As for Hancock , I would including From Fat Albert Ayler all the way to the Sextant?headhunter era. Very inventive!! Edited by Sean Trane |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Heptade
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 427 |
Posted: September 06 2005 at 15:20 | ||
I like the bit on Daevid Allen's Bananamoon album where someone takes
a kazoo solo, or blows through a toilet paper tube for a while, and when he's done, you can hear someone in the background yell, "hey, it's Coltrane!" |
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The world keeps spinning, people keep sinning
And all the rest is just bullsh*t -Steve Kilbey |
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 06 2005 at 15:05 | ||
John Coltrane was a true giant of music, and was also a major inspiration for Christian Vander (Coltrane Sundaia is tribute, obviously, Trane's mugshot can be seen in the packaging of KA and Vander's piano playing is heavily influenced by McCoy Tyner). One album that hasn't been mentioned yet is Crescent, recorded at around the same time as A Love Supreme by the same line up. Not quite as astonishing as A Love..., but a remarkable piece of work. A Jazz for Proggers section is a great idea, I'd include Herbie Hancock's Mwandishi albums alog with the rest of the usual suspects. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20239 |
Posted: September 06 2005 at 11:13 | ||
Excellent idea!! I will propose it to the collab zone. It need not be a full discography but could be just a text in the definitions or even in the future Blog section. As most of you know , I took my nickname in his honour. Trane is how most real jazz buffs name him. I think he was one of the freest musician ever and was also one of the most progressive jazzman ever. I do not appreciate all of his free-jazz stuff , but dearly love A Love Supreme , The Vanguard village Sessions , First Meditatiobs , Africa/Brass, Ole etc.... Santana made two very brilliant albums in his memory : Illuminations with Trane's widow Alice and his McLaughlin collab. Both albums have been remixed by Bill Laswell on one Cd some 6 years back! Fabulous mingling of the two albums (both album tracks are mixed in different sequence and both albums mingled): outstanding. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Fantômas
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
Posted: September 05 2005 at 18:59 | ||
Thanks for the information! I will listen to the radio.
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And above all, is punk
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 05 2005 at 18:48 | ||
Dog is a very straight-forward album compared to the other albums. If you're into Jazz, you might like Boil That Dust Speck, and his project The Mistakes. Generally, none of his albums are alike. The earlier ones are more influenced by Zappa, namely hat and Sluggo. The Universe Will Provide is an amazing collaboration with an orchestra, and Nonkertompf and Wooden Smoke are extremely free-form. And last but not least, Mike Keneally & Beer For Dolphins - Dancing is a really great and at the same time very accessible album. I recommend you listen to Keneally radio for a while - they're playing songs from all the albums + unreleased live bootlegs and more. |
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Fantômas
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
Posted: September 05 2005 at 18:42 | ||
In fact, I know one album by Mike Keneally, Dog
(which I came to know when a friend of mine told me he was the "half of
Frank Zappa's soul", the other half is Mike Patton)... And, YES, I like
it! For some reason, I never went to other album. So, a question: Does
it give a good notion on his career, overall? Because I like that
album..
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And above all, is punk
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 05 2005 at 18:28 | ||
Check out www.radiokeneally.com - currently playing a rare track by The Mistakes. Next up: Keneally's cover of FZ - Montana. Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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