Can Nationalism stop Globalization?

^I recently saw a documentary on those guys, specifically the NSM. They are more pitiful than scary. 

Can National Socialism stop globalization? 

Triceratopsoil wrote: twseel wrote: if we, the West are not competing well enough with China, 888 Labour and environmental laws, no those have nothing to do with it, if only we worked harder this wouldn't happen who are you, jeb bush?

Did you read my whole post? Of course we don't HAVE TO, and it WOULD be a decline in moral, but the international market doesn't care. If they're cheaper and more efficient, we will lose market shares and we don't control their government or their people so there isn't much we can do about that except for changing our social/moral standards or accepting our loss in the international market.

Triceratopsoil wrote: It's completely bizarre to see something totally nonexistent mere decades ago described as an impossible to reverse given facet of life... how long do you think people have been around? edit:a typo

l Like how you think and your avatar is an awesome album. Bought back in '72. 

Triceratopsoil wrote: A Person wrote: Whether it is a good thing or not, the economy is no longer a national thing. Supply chains stretch across the planet, nationalism cannot stop that.   IMO every country should at least strive for self-sufficiency, what are you going to do if e.g. you go to war with china and every single piece of technology or communication equipment in your country was built there?  I'm in signals in the army reserves and frankly something like that is alarming Another example, what's the point in Alberta extracting crude, piping it to the USA to refine, then buying it back when you could build another couple refineries here? Or why do you have to go to a farmers' market to buy garlic that isn't grown in contaminated chinese soil?

People talk about "The West" as though mass electronic communication and the ability to travel around the globe in a day without a serious risk of dying have always been part of the fabric of human society.

I don't think they're being disingenuous. You take fast travel and instantaneous communication for granted if you don't think about them. But it wasn't too long ago that merely moving from Virginia to Kansas meant you were likely to never, ever be seen or heard from ever again. So it's just absolutely insane to suggest that universal globalism and everyone living everywhere is core to Western civilization; the idea wasn't even thinkable before the mid-20th century. You can drive for eight hours in Europe and cross five language zones because that's how little mobility people used to have.

The idea that our territory didn't really belong to us because capitalism and our values give everyone the right to pick up all their sh*t and move to wherever General Electric is offering a job is such an obviously modern phenomenon that it's insulting my intelligence to say it's in any way core to Western civilization.

Logan wrote: Globalization in various forms has been going on for a very long time, pretty much since man first left the Savannah, though at times it was better called colonization and colonialism.

Up until extremely recently it was impossible to uproot your family and entire existence unless you were incredibly rich.  Let's not mistake the experiences of a tiny handful of explorers and militaries for the human condition.  Forget the opposite side of the world, Romanians wouldn't be able to make it to Ukraine.  Different nationalities have been distinct for almost 40000 years.

A Person wrote: Whether it is a good thing or not, the economy is no longer a national thing. Supply chains stretch across the planet, nationalism cannot stop that.

IMO every country should at least strive for self-sufficiency, what are you going to do if e.g. you go to war with china and every single piece of technology or communication equipment in your country was built there?  I'm in signals in the army reserves and frankly something like that is alarming

Another example, what's the point in Alberta extracting crude, piping it to the USA to refine, then buying it back when you could build another couple refineries here?

Or why do you have to go to a farmers' market to buy garlic that isn't grown in contaminated chinese soil?


Edited by Triceratopsoil - April 27 2017 at 00:39

I hope Nationalism can slow down Globalism.  The Globalism endgame isn't pretty unless you like neo-feudalism.

It's completely bizarre to see something totally nonexistent mere decades ago described as an impossible to reverse given facet of life... how long do you think people have been around?

edit:a typo


Edited by Triceratopsoil - April 27 2017 at 00:13