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    Posted: October 09 2016 at 12:05
And in Germany Opeth  with their new album is currently Nr 1 in the official album charts!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 13:45
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

We're #88! How proud the band must feel. Do they get a participation trophy or something?


Well, they can say their new album was top 50 (and now top 100) in the UK charts. After almost 50 years of never compromising, that's pretty cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 11:42
We're #88! How proud the band must feel. Do they get a participation trophy or something?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 09:04
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ everyone knows how you can't stand bands like Marillion, Camel or any band Steven Wilson is in; it's redundant to say it ever again
And that you think that Duke by Genesis is their masterpiece! So there! LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 08:09
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ everyone knows how you can't stand bands like Marillion, Camel or any band Steven Wilson is in; it's redundant to say it ever again
And that you think that Duke by Genesis is their masterpiece! So there! LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 07:22
Still, I bet neither Sainsbury's nor Tesco will be stocking any copies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2016 at 05:06
VdGG's "Do Not Disturb" in the UK:

#6 - Rock
#17 - Indie
#41 - Physical Sales
#88 - The Top 100
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2016 at 14:33
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

SELL OUTS!!!  the final black mark for a group full of them.  At least before they were a cult group for the wacky fringe of our genre.. I move that we banish them to Prog Related as a penalty for this travesty....
VDGG a group full of black marks? What an odd thing to say. I move that we banish you to the cornfield.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2016 at 11:47
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/

Don't look if you've weak heart. Learn the harsh truth of the concept of "Midweeks" and "Official Chart".
Nobody to blame and even I wouldn't mind a chart placing like that.

Yeah, I saw they dropped to #88. Hell, it's VdGG. That they're even *in* the Top 100 in the UK is surprising to me (even with the charts not being what they used to be, etc)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2016 at 11:05
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/

Don't look if you've weak heart. Learn the harsh truth of the concept of "Midweeks" and "Official Chart".
Nobody to blame and even I wouldn't mind a chart placing like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 18:38
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I'd love to know if VDGG have EVER been played on commercial, mainstream radio stations.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 10:31
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


^ everyone knows how you can't stand bands like Marillion, Camel or any band Steven Wilson is in; it's redundant to say it ever again

bah...old manipulative tactic. No one listens anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 08:55
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

I'm not wanting to coming across like I'm shooting down your claim of `I think that the past decade's worth of great reviews and articles in mainstream music mags and newspapers in the UK and Europe have catapulted the group's stock.', but I think it's more to do with the fact that CD/album sales are generally in the toilet these days, so it allows bands such as this, who's small but devoted fanbases are some of the only ones still buying albums, to kind of accidently sneak into these mainstream charts?!

Didn't Marillion just hit #5 in the UK charts last week or something as well?

No, I hear you. VdGG has become "critics' darlings" over the last decade or more but the charts today aren't what they were and don't mean the same thing they did back in the day. The industry has pretty much tanked (or so I've been told) so you don't have to sell nearly as much product these days to make the charts.

Still, I know personally/privately that the record label are very pleased; VdGG more than break even, they do quite well. They're a cult band but it's a large enough audience to ensure good, decent sales (so everyone involved does well, although no one is driving around in Porches Smile ). 

I know that back in the day a typical VdGG album would sell around 20k in the UK (more in some other European countries, waaaaay less in the U.S. where they never toured and were pretty unknown save for a small-ish cult following). That was tough for the label, Charisma, because that's just about the break-even point. VdGG were lucky to be on Charisma because the label did a lot of promotion and support for them, but they obviously never broke out into mainstream success (ala their labelmates Genesis and Lindisfarne) so they never actually made the label a lot of money (but they didn't lose them any, either).

Anyway, that's all a bit of digression. So, yup, the charts ain't as important as they were but it's still cool to see VdGG in the mainstream UK charts, and it has to denote some sort of "success."


Edited by bucka001 - October 05 2016 at 08:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 05:10
^I see it now. Thanks.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 04:59
^ he's talking of the mid-week update, which sees Marillion dropping from 4 to 53, Opeth enter at 9 and (if anyone cares) Epica at 23 between Adele and Bieber.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:47
This is either wishful thinking or, if the OP is well informed, foreknowledge of next week's charts.

Moreover, the current chart is for the week from 30 September to 6 October, so it must be based on the albums sold in the week before. And VdGG's album was released on the 30th, so...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:45
^ everyone knows how you can't stand bands like Marillion, Camel or any band Steven Wilson is in; it's redundant to say it ever again

Edited by Cristi - October 05 2016 at 03:45
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:34
hah... Marillion has LONG needed to have been jailed in the hells of Prog Related.. I tried.. but got axed by the Neo team before I could move them.  The one time my big mouth failed me.. they were already suspicious as to why the Big Mick himself wanted to join the Neo team.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:31
I'm not wanting to coming across like I'm shooting down your claim of `I think that the past decade's worth of great reviews and articles in mainstream music mags and newspapers in the UK and Europe have catapulted the group's stock.', but I think it's more to do with the fact that CD/album sales are generally in the toilet these days, so it allows bands such as this, who's small but devoted fanbases are some of the only ones still buying albums, to kind of accidently sneak into these mainstream charts?!

Didn't Marillion just hit #5 in the UK charts last week or something as well?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:26
SELL OUTS!!!  the final black mark for a group full of them.  At least before they were a cult group for the wacky fringe of our genre.. I move that we banish them to Prog Related as a penalty for this travesty....
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