VdGG enter the *gasp* mainstream UK Charts
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Topic: VdGG enter the *gasp* mainstream UK Charts
Posted By: bucka001
Subject: VdGG enter the *gasp* mainstream UK Charts
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 09:15
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VdGG's new album "Do Not Disturb" just entered the mid-week album charts in the UK at #44! Just so we're clear, that's not the "indie" charts, or some sort of Amazon chart... this is the real-deal mainstream Top 100 UK chart. I think that the past decade's worth of great reviews and articles in mainstream music mags and newspapers in the UK and Europe have catapulted the group's stock. They've been very fashionable/hip in a way they weren't in the 70s, when they were just one of many Brit bands doing their thing. They've sort of had the kind of positive reappraisal that late 60's / 70's contemporaries like Nick Drake, Can, Captain Beefheart, and a few others have enjoyed (while the stock of more successful 70s acts have gone down, at least in terms of being critics' darlings). Anyway, congrats to Van der Graaf Generator and those at Cherry Red / Esoteric. Right on!!!!! ------------- jc |
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 02:55
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Where can we find this information? I went to the official website of UK charts, but couldn't find any trace of VdGG. |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:16
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Midweek album chart here: http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/ No idea how things will look on Friday when latest chart announced. But I know from another band (not Prog) that you can have a single top the physical chart, but for the same product to not make a dent in the Official Singles Chart! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:20
| I'd love to know if VDGG have EVER been played on commercial, mainstream radio stations......... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:26
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SELL OUTS!!! the final black mark for a group full of them. At least before they were a cult group for the wacky fringe of our genre.. I move that we banish them to Prog Related as a penalty for this travesty.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:31
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I'm not wanting to coming across like I'm shooting down your claim of `I think that the past decade's worth of great reviews and articles in mainstream music mags and newspapers in the UK and Europe have catapulted the group's stock.', but I think it's more to do with the fact that CD/album sales are generally in the toilet these days, so it allows bands such as this, who's small but devoted fanbases are some of the only ones still buying albums, to kind of accidently sneak into these mainstream charts?! Didn't Marillion just hit #5 in the UK charts last week or something as well? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:34
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hah... Marillion has LONG needed to have been jailed in the hells of Prog Related.. I tried.. but got axed by the Neo team before I could move them. The one time my big mouth failed me.. they were already suspicious as to why the Big Mick himself wanted to join the Neo team. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:45
| ^ everyone knows how you can't stand bands like Marillion, Camel or any band Steven Wilson is in; it's redundant to say it ever again |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:47
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This is either wishful thinking or, if the OP is well informed, foreknowledge of next week's charts. Moreover, the http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/" rel="nofollow - current char t is for the week from 30 September to 6 October, so it must be based on the albums sold in the week before. And VdGG's album was released on the 30th, so...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 04:59
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^ he's talking of the mid-week update, which sees Marillion dropping from 4 to 53, Opeth enter at 9 and (if anyone cares) Epica at 23 between Adele and Bieber. ------------- What? |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 05:10
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http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/" rel="nofollow - ^I see it now. Thanks. -------------
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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 08:55
No, I hear you. VdGG has become "critics' darlings" over the last decade or more but the charts today aren't what they were and don't mean the same thing they did back in the day. The industry has pretty much tanked (or so I've been told) so you don't have to sell nearly as much product these days to make the charts. Still, I know personally/privately that the record label are very pleased; VdGG more than break even, they do quite well. They're a cult band but it's a large enough audience to ensure good, decent sales (so everyone involved does well, although no one is driving around in Porches  ). I know that back in the day a typical VdGG album would sell around 20k in the UK (more in some other European countries, waaaaay less in the U.S. where they never toured and were pretty unknown save for a small-ish cult following). That was tough for the label, Charisma, because that's just about the break-even point. VdGG were lucky to be on Charisma because the label did a lot of promotion and support for them, but they obviously never broke out into mainstream success (ala their labelmates Genesis and Lindisfarne) so they never actually made the label a lot of money (but they didn't lose them any, either). Anyway, that's all a bit of digression. So, yup, the charts ain't as important as they were but it's still cool to see VdGG in the mainstream UK charts, and it has to denote some sort of "success."
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 10:31
bah...old manipulative tactic. No one listens anyway.  ------------- |
Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: October 05 2016 at 18:38
I played Van Der Graaf Generator on my show SPACE PIRATE RADIO from 1974 till 2002. Only when the program moved to an NPR affiliate from 1999 to 2002 was it not on commercial FM radio. Cheers.
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 07 2016 at 11:05
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http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/
Don't look if you've weak heart. Learn the harsh truth of the concept of "Midweeks" and "Official Chart". Nobody to blame and even I wouldn't mind a chart placing like that.
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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: October 07 2016 at 11:47
Yeah, I saw they dropped to #88. Hell, it's VdGG. That they're even *in* the Top 100 in the UK is surprising to me (even with the charts not being what they used to be, etc) ------------- jc |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 07 2016 at 14:33
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 05:06
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VdGG's "Do Not Disturb" in the UK: #6 - Rock #17 - Indie #41 - Physical Sales #88 - The Top 100 ------------- jc |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 07:22
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Still, I bet neither Sainsbury's nor Tesco will be stocking any copies. ------------- What? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 08:09
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 09:04
haha... don't single us out.. for it is the God of music that looks upon you all that don't see it and think flawed inconsitent... BORING albums are considered their masterpieces simply because the 'prog quotient' was higher. There is not a weak second on that album... and you simply can't say that about any other Genesis album (especially the earlier ones) which were a heady mix of brilliant and outright floating pieces of sh*t (ie SEbtP) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 11:42
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We're #88! How proud the band must feel. Do they get a participation trophy or something? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 13:45
Well, they can say their new album was top 50 (and now top 100) in the UK charts. After almost 50 years of never compromising, that's pretty cool. ------------- jc |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: October 09 2016 at 12:05
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And in Germany Opeth with their new album is currently Nr 1 in the official album charts! |