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    Posted: November 28 2015 at 22:23
I beg to different in not classifying Japan's Tin Drum as "New Wave."  Check out the second Teardrop Explodes album, Wire's second album, second Echo and the Bunnyman, there are many more in that genre that were as arty, in my opinion.   

I was a New Wave listener starting around 1978, and around that time, there was no difference between Punk and New Wave.  However, when the LA scene began to get big, then Punk became the
term to cover something minimalized/more redundant to rock, and "New Wave" incorporated the more arty bands (such as Teardrop Explodes, etc.).   I don't see Japan's Tin Drum as being that more extreme artistically than something also in 1981 called Provisionally Entitled The Singing Fish by Colin Newman (of Wire).   
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

"Forbidden Colours" is beyond beautiful, and was included as a bonus track to "Secrets of the Beehive".  I think it fit in perfectly


Agree. I love that song and that album.
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When I saw the titled saying 'Japan', I thought this would be choke full of stuff on Fragile, Kenso, Ain Soph and the great prog/fusion artists of Japan. Man was I sadly mistaken.
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well hush hush Tin Drum is a fabulous album Japan are a equally amaing band. I`m a huge fan of the band...
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 The thread would be moved in Prog Related sub-forum.


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Calling 'Tin Drum' new wave is akin to calling Led Zeppelin funk as far as i can see. No connection at all. But it's a free world i guess.
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I still like it... but maybe I didn't pass the time test either.
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Oil on Canvas, with that Auerbach's painting at the cover (he was very popular painter in 80s), was regarded at the time as worthy Japan's album as same as Tin Drum, maybe more Wink
But the album didn't pass the time test.


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"Forbidden Colours" is beyond beautiful, and was included as a bonus track to "Secrets of the Beehive".  I think it fit in perfectly
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Tin Drum was one of favourite albums of the 80's. So unique, weird and wonderful.
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I love Quiet Life - Tin Drum is growing on me. David's association with Ryuichi Sakamoto intrigues me greatly as a Yellow Magic Orchestra fan.
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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2015 at 04:03
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Rain Tree Crow and David Sylvian's solo work is even better IMO. Also on this site.


Agreed, the Rain Tree Crow album is brilliant.
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2015 at 02:29
Originally posted by Guy_Debord_68 Guy_Debord_68 wrote:

Anybody remember pretty boys Japan? 'Tin Drum' was a seriously proggy miesterwerk.
Tin Drum is a decent New Wave album, I loved that LP, but it's a crime to call it *prog* just because it's a bit more artistic release. As a genre, New Wave was an antithesis of prog.


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The last Mick's album, The Concrete Twin, is one of my fav. For me it synthesizes all the researches of that great musician. Check it out. 

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They are a great band. I especially enjoy the crazy bass Work.
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Points: 15921 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:45
^ Hush hush   
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I'm too shy to admit that Wink
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Points: 15921 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:19
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

you mean "Night Porter" is Satie inspired?
Off topic but can you recommend some Satie interpretations of this ilk?
yeah - that piano of Barbieri's. I know Sky did a Gymnopedies # and I've heard some Satie used in films. Always has that 'lonely' and melancholic piano lines. Generally 'achingly beautiful'. I really must look into his works properly as I do like his style.
As for the late, great Mick Karn - I am familiar with 2 of his solo albums - Titles and Dreams Of Reason Produce Monsters. Both with wonderful bass and clever instrumentals.
He also was in Dali's Car, another interesting take on New-Wave with the singer from Bauhaus.
Sylvian did some superb atmospheric albums with the guys from Can - very dark and mysterious. They are all very accomplished musicians who were always progressively minded.
Just as a side, I do still prefer Kajagoogoo to Japan

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