Japan Anyone?
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Topic: Japan Anyone?
Posted By: Guy_Debord_68
Subject: Japan Anyone?
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 09:48
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Anybody remember pretty boys Japan? 'Tin Drum' was a seriously proggy miesterwerk. ------------- To every age its art. To every art its freedom. |
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 10:21
| Love Japan, and love Tin Drum - one of my favourite albums, prog or not. They're here under Prog-Related, even though their addition was somewhat controversial back in the day. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 11:12
Love that band. That album is their best by far. |
Posted By: Guy_Debord_68
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 12:00
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Some of the time signatures and drum timings are seriously challenging but withva real commercial edge. Quiet Life is also a favourite. Wonderful record. ------------- To every age its art. To every art its freedom. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 12:30
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Rain Tree Crow and David Sylvian's solo work is even better IMO. Also on this site. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 12:33
| The first, third and Blemish albums by Sylvian are terrific. Never liked his work with Fripp. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 13:07
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Polaroids for me, still prefer this to Tin Drum, which happens to have a guest in Hawkwind's Simon House on violin !! |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 14:45
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Funny, just borrowed Gone To Earth (Sylvian solo) from the library on a whim and enjoying it - Fripp and Bill Nelson are guests on it. Like what I have heard. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 15:28
That's my personal favorite solo lp by Sylvian. Oil On Canvas, their double live set, is my favorite by Japan.  A linked review of Tin Drum by Mellotron Storm....I agree with his comments that it's a difficult listen at times and to me is only 3 stars. http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=434489" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=434489
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Flight123 wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 15:33
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Love me some Japan! In particular Gentlemen take Polaroids and Tin Drum. Two great (progressive) pop albums.....and I just adore Mick Karn's bass playing  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guy_Debord_68
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 16:02
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Well it's a view. Not one that i share but you pays your money I guess. ------------- To every age its art. To every art its freedom. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 12:28
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I will have to give it another chance. Is "Tin Drum" the one with "Night Porter"? If so, that was the only song I liked on it when I listened way back when. I am a big fan of several David Sylvian albums. In particular, "Secrets of the Beehive" is a top 10 album for me.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 13:51
| The one with night porter is Gentleman take polaroids. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 21:27
| ^ Very much Sati inspired. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 21:58
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you mean "Night Porter" is Satie inspired? Off topic but can you recommend some Satie interpretations of this ilk?
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 22:49
Erik Satie: Gnossienne No. 1, 2, 3 ( Daniel Varsano)
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 23:10
 This one is my second favorite.A very underrated album in my opinion with long tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amS-BNNsDA4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVJdKcZsUtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU0P4NL0_04 |
Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 00:14
Not sure about it being "this ilk" but there are the Blood Sweat and Tears "Variations" from their second album, Gary Numans versions of Gymnopedie # 1 and also the Hubert Laws/Bob James thing. Sorry if the the BS&T thing is stating the bloody obvious. Quite a few people have done Satie including ------------- Andrew B “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 00:22
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Mick Karn in general and on Sons of Pioneers in particular , challenged the boundaries of bass playing. Stunning technique and massive sound. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 00:23
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Sorry, that was somewhat off topic wasn't it ? Me I really liked Japan
and a lot of Sylvians solo stuff. Raff mentions it was controversial
that Japan was included as Prog Related but me I'd have no objection. One other album that Sylvian appears on though it is not actually his would be the Ryuichi Sakamoto Soundtrack to "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence". Something else he did with Sakamoto "Bamboo Houses" ------------- Andrew B “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:03
Ryuichi Sakamoto-David Sylvian WORLD CITIZEN
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:19
As for the late, great Mick Karn - I am familiar with 2 of his solo albums - Titles and Dreams Of Reason Produce Monsters. Both with wonderful bass and clever instrumentals. He also was in Dali's Car, another interesting take on New-Wave with the singer from Bauhaus. Sylvian did some superb atmospheric albums with the guys from Can - very dark and mysterious. They are all very accomplished musicians who were always progressively minded. Just as a side, I do still prefer Kajagoogoo to Japan 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:35
I'm too shy to admit that 
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 01:45
^ Hush hush 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 02:17
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They are a great band. I especially enjoy the crazy bass Work. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 02:23
The last Mick's album, The Concrete Twin, is one of my fav. For me it synthesizes all the researches of that great musician. Check it out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7anEZG2Hc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xt06jJ6LIw
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 02:29
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 04:03
Agreed, the Rain Tree Crow album is brilliant. |
Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 06:53
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I love Quiet Life - Tin Drum is growing on me. David's association with Ryuichi Sakamoto intrigues me greatly as a Yellow Magic Orchestra fan. ------------- 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 07:45
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Tin Drum was one of favourite albums of the 80's. So unique, weird and wonderful. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 07:50
| "Forbidden Colours" is beyond beautiful, and was included as a bonus track to "Secrets of the Beehive". I think it fit in perfectly |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 08:40
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Oil on Canvas, with that Auerbach's painting at the cover (he was very popular painter in 80s), was regarded at the time as worthy Japan's album as same as Tin Drum, maybe more
But the album didn't pass the time test.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 15:05
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I still like it... but maybe I didn't pass the time test either. |
Posted By: Guy_Debord_68
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 15:25
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Calling 'Tin Drum' new wave is akin to calling Led Zeppelin funk as far as i can see. No connection at all. But it's a free world i guess. ------------- To every age its art. To every art its freedom. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 26 2015 at 15:28
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The thread would be moved in Prog Related sub-forum.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 01:52
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well hush hush Tin Drum is a fabulous album Japan are a equally amaing band. I`m a huge fan of the band... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 03:13
| ^ amazing......... |
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: November 02 2015 at 11:21
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When I saw the titled saying 'Japan', I thought this would be choke full of stuff on Fragile, Kenso, Ain Soph and the great prog/fusion artists of Japan. Man was I sadly mistaken. ------------- Deafmoon |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 13 2015 at 11:42
Agree. I love that song and that album. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: November 28 2015 at 22:23
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I beg to different in not classifying Japan's Tin Drum as "New Wave." Check out the second Teardrop Explodes album, Wire's second album, second Echo and the Bunnyman, there are many more in that genre that were as arty, in my opinion. I was a New Wave listener starting around 1978, and around that time, there was no difference between Punk and New Wave. However, when the LA scene began to get big, then Punk became the term to cover something minimalized/more redundant to rock, and "New Wave" incorporated the more arty bands (such as Teardrop Explodes, etc.). I don't see Japan's Tin Drum as being that more extreme artistically than something also in 1981 called Provisionally Entitled The Singing Fish by Colin Newman (of Wire). ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |