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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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One of many great tracks by classic prog bands , but for me it's too long which is the same problem I have with TFTO and Suppers Ready. I like the music on those ,but I tend to prefer the shorter epics from 9-12 min long that don't overstay their welcome.
Not sure what my favorite 'epic' is but for repeated listening on a desert island I wouldn't choose CTTE.
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 7766 |
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" . . . it is up there with the other greats."
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Progosopher ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6472 |
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![]() We constantly see this sort of approach in the modern day. We have lost sight of the fact that such lists in the past were merely means of promotion. I watched a run-down of the top musical screams on MTV many years ago when they were still showing music videos. The late comic Sam Kinneson won. His parody song was on rotation at the time, as were most of those in contention. No Child in Time or Won't Get Fooled Again. Ancient history. The problem is that now we too often take such an approach as legitimate. To an extent, I am just about as guilty as anyone for I frequently view lists. I rarely take them seriously, but I do like to see who places where in the listing. Favorites are one thing, but, as is implied, objectively the best? Even with clear criteria, that is debatable. Still, CTTE is a great song.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24671 |
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Option #3 for me. I would grant the title to Supper's Ready instead. But the album on which it resides is the best prog album ever - in my book.
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WrytXander ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 09 2014 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 237 |
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Thing is, sometimes you just listen to a song and realize that you DO, in fact, like it more than all the other songs you know. Other times you think to yourself "I don't think anyone could come up with something that affects me this deeply/ appeals to me this much/ is as beautiful as this". I used to obsess over listing things and putting things above one another. Then I realized that you can't ever be totally satisfied with that kind of practice, as there will always something you left out or put too low on the list. Not only that, but I realized that there is no point whatsoever. Not being able to put a song on your list shouldn't take away from your listening experience and making these countdowns and the sort is only a burden on that front. With your "favourite song" or "the song you consider the best", that's not the case. There is no extra effort spent on trying to fit it into one position, and you don't think of it as "putting all the other ones below"; you've simply been touched by a song in places never before touched, and after a while you start taking note of these sensations before you ultimately decide that this is your favourite song. That's been my experience anyway, and that's what makes it all the more entertaining for me. Close to the Edge, to me, is the best song of all time, and that's just fine.
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progmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1785 |
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When I listen to it, Close to the Edge is THE best prog song ever -- at that moment. However, I can say that about several hundred other songs that just blow me away when I listen to them. It's ludicrous for me to try to decide what is the best song when it's impossible to truly compare Brand X to Yes to Renaissance to Porcupine Tree to Genesis to Frank Zappa etc.
Each great band has its own identity, and every great band has songs that when you're done listening to them, you are blown away. I could list hundreds, perhaps thousands of examples of 10/10 songs without even taxing my brain, and have no way of deciding which I like best. I like them all best. |
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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To paraphrase John Lennon, tt's not even the best song on the "Close To The Edge" album.
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Well said, and I should add there's not an absolute best prog song, or classical piece, jazz, blues, etc. Personally you might prefer one over the others, and that's fine, but absolute is a very radical term, and hardly one that everybody will agree upon.
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Michael678 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466 |
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it's usually number 1 for me, but a quite a few epics are up there too along with some shorter tracks too. so option 2 for me.
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Yes were always a bunch of people with too much ego to work together properly, not on the level of ELP but getting there, and as a consequence I find their music incredibly dull. Close to the Edge is no exception to this. Unlike albums, I find it really difficult to compare indavidual songs for some reason. There's a whole host that I'd put at the absolute top level but seperating between them becomes almost impossible for me. Strangely enough, I never have this trouble with albums, according to my tastes Kayo Dot's Chois of the Eye s the best album I've ever heard and I have no trouble coming to this conclusion. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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CttE is much like the four options in this poll - none of the parts are perfect nor well constructed but somehow have managed to be crashed together into some semblance of order (coincidentally, not unlike the "classic" Yes line-up). It's not the best prog song ever nor do I believe that it is "up there with other greats" but I don't think it is bad, (the weight of popular opinion suggests it is far from bad even if I don't personally like it a great deal). Yes did better songs than this and better epics/long-suites.
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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That song is a bit the mess, going in many directions and embracing different genres. In brief it's all that I like in the musical journey : the disorientation and the unpredictable.
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the lighthouse keepe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2013 Location: u.k Status: Offline Points: 207 |
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Great song,but Awaken and Gates of Delerium are superior,and South Side of the Sky is a gem too!The best prog song ever? Starless maybe?
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PrognosticMind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 02 2014 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1195 |
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Archetypal prog rock; top 3 for me!
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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#3.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Probably.
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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One of the most popular, well loved prog epics, yes. Personally I'd take either of Echoes or Starless over it every single day. Also, Supper's Ready, Mumps, Tarkus, Kontarkohz pt-2 etc etc. Yeah, I do like CTTE but it doesn't necessarily overwhelm me to the point of tears and all that.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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This. Personally, I prefer Awaken. |
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LearsFool ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2014 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 8644 |
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A single 19 minute composition? Well... I'm aware of tellings of the album's composition and recording process that say that the four main sections of the eventual suite were all being worked on independent of one another. Bruford has gone on record mentioning something about it being assembled in sections of oh-so-many bars, ten, twelve, sixteen. But the main thing is that the band was stuck in a rut, and I'm told that Offord managed to break their compositional block by encouraging them to assemble those ideas into a single side long suite - "Close To The Edge". Listening to the differences between the intro, the first verse section, and "I Get Up...", this makes sense to me. So the suite's greatness seems to lie not in it being a single composition, but a series of five vignettes that they managed to stitch together to make it seem like it was a single composition from the start - something like if Doctor Frankenstein had fashioned himself an Adonis, with the stitches practically invisible. And that's probably a greater feat than just fashioning a true single composition.
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