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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:41
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

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We may not understand it, but unfortunatly in the Pop world the "looks" of the arstists is more important than their talent. Who cares if they can't sing and there's about no music in the song, as long as they are Pretty, handsome, and Hot, so they can put their pictures in the CD cover and have them dance on the promotional video.


I do know that people place more importance to looks in pop.  But it's not just pop, whether it's metal or prog, you will find a lot of people a bit too concerned about how the artists look and dress up.  It's especially ridiculous for a prog fan to be bothered about it because prog is not about image, whereas imagery, for better or worse, is a big deal in metal.


The big point is that in Prog imagery reinforces a progressive presentation, in pop it reinforces a regressive presentation.

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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 21:34
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:



We may not understand it, but unfortunatly in the Pop world the "looks" of the arstists is more important than their talent. Who cares if they can't sing and there's about no music in the song, as long as they are Pretty, handsome, and Hot, so they can put their pictures in the CD cover and have them dance on the promotional video.


I do know that people place more importance to looks in pop.  But it's not just pop, whether it's metal or prog, you will find a lot of people a bit too concerned about how the artists look and dress up.  It's especially ridiculous for a prog fan to be bothered about it because prog is not about image, whereas imagery, for better or worse, is a big deal in metal.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

I don't really understand - whether it's Fish or KISS, whoever - how and why costumes come to play any role in appreciating music anyway.  Um, music is meant to be listened to, right?  Don't like the outfits?  Just look away and listen, shouldn't be hard. How does it concern anyone if the costumes help the artist get more fans than he/she deserves for the music?


We may not understand it, but unfortunatly in the Pop world the "looks" of the arstists is more important than their talent. Who cares if they can't sing and there's about no music in the song, as long as they are Pretty, handsome, and Hot, so they can put their pictures in the CD cover and have them dance on the promotional video.
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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 10:01
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Radio GaGa
Radio GaGa
Lady oh Gaga
Lady oh Gaga

Ahem



you really do have the worst avatar

there's just something creepy and sad about it LOL
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Radio GaGa
Radio GaGa
Lady oh Gaga
Lady oh Gaga

Ahem
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Points: 2822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 07:44
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Also, it might interest you to know that she was hired by her record label as a songwriter before she became a solo artist.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Lady-GaGa-Totally-GaGa.4891798.jp


I'll concede that she has a carefully-cultivated reputation as being a sort of songwriter and can probably play a decent piano but that the nature of the beast is that her pop career is a well-oiled machine and certainly none of the profit-interested people involved want to leave it to her, no matter how good her writing is.
 
Like I said upthread - SHE'S TROLLIN' ALL Y'ALL.
 
 
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 07:35
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Gaga?Confused    GAH! Shocked
 
This is WAAAAAY cooler, kiddiwinks.  V
 
Would you prefer the original studio version:
 
 
or live?
 


Bravo! Say "NO!" to new music and "YES!" to pre-1989 heroes!
Thanks for watching & responding! Smile
Cool  Now dig this, Walter:
 
 
Dunno -- just thought of crazy, uber-talented  former East-German opera fraulein Nina H, tonight. Ever hear her band Spliff (sans Nina)? Cool stuff!
As a long-time fan of both Ms Hagen (and Spliff ~ Schwarz auf Weiss is one of my fave 80s albums) I don't think she's in the same league as Lady Gaga when it comes to being a Pop Diva. However, as an icon and an example of "interesting" female performers I would place them both in the same loose category as Toyah and Lena Lovich (and to some extent Diamanda Galas and Siouxie Sioux) - all have carved a niche in a masculine dominated world of popular music that is uniquely theirs.
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 05:09
Just wanting to say that your whole demonstration is ridiculous RoyDude, and that your attitude is what makes all proggers look like childish elitist snobs (some are, but not all LOL).
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I don't mind Gaga at all - I just find the actual synth music kind of boring. If that were amped up a bit I would probably listen to her quite frequently.
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I have a friend who says GaGa is s modern David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust....
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 00:33
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Gaga?Confused    GAH! Shocked
 
This is WAAAAAY cooler, kiddiwinks.  V
 
Would you prefer the original studio version:
 
 
or live?
 


Bravo! Say "NO!" to new music and "YES!" to pre-1989 heroes!
Thanks for watching & responding! Smile
Cool  Now dig this, Walter:
 
 
Dunno -- just thought of crazy, uber-talented  former East-German opera fraulein Nina H, tonight. Ever hear her band Spliff (sans Nina)? Cool stuff!
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Points: 4373 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2010 at 00:16
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Gaga?Confused    GAH! Shocked
 
This is WAAAAAY cooler, kiddiwinks.  V
 
Would you prefer the original studio version:
 
 
or live?
 


Bravo! Say "NO!" to new music and "YES!" to pre-1989 heroes!
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:54
I don't really understand - whether it's Fish or KISS, whoever - how and why costumes come to play any role in appreciating music anyway.  Um, music is meant to be listened to, right?  Don't like the outfits?  Just look away and listen, shouldn't be hard. How does it concern anyone if the costumes help the artist get more fans than he/she deserves for the music?
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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:51
Originally posted by Stonebolt Stonebolt wrote:

Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

 

You know a previous poster just revealed she's a fake blonde (I think)? That just kills it for me man.

 
LOL It's just a stage persona. Do yu like KISS? Do their costumes ruin it for you?

To be honest, a bit. Not much to ruin, but that is my opinion. LOL
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Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

 

You know a previous poster just revealed she's a fake blonde (I think)? That just kills it for me man.

 
LOL It's just a stage persona. Do yu like KISS? Do their costumes ruin it for you?
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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:41
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Also, it might interest you to know that she was hired by her record label as a songwriter before she became a solo artist.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Lady-GaGa-Totally-GaGa.4891798.jp


I'll concede that she has a carefully-cultivated reputation as being a sort of songwriter and can probably play a decent piano but that the nature of the beast is that her pop career is a well-oiled machine and certainly none of the profit-interested people involved want to leave it to her, no matter how good her writing is.

In any case the involvement of the song-writing cabal suggests that on her own Gaga could not reach any where near the same levels that she did with her grade A assistance. In any case, everyone involved is aiming towards the same dubious goal: create a hit pop album. There is no artistical strain involved here - it is a matter of technique.

sorry, I've nodded off twice writing this. I need to hit the sack. Sleepy It's not complete....




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Also, it might interest you to know that she was hired by her record label as a songwriter before she became a solo artist.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Lady-GaGa-Totally-GaGa.4891798.jp
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTU4Cnb4BY&feature=related
 
Mwa ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! LOL
 
 
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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:19
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I was really hoping you would take the bait and this would turn into a Star Wars quote thread. Unhappy


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Gaga?Confused    GAH! Shocked
 
This is WAAAAAY cooler, kiddiwinks.  V
 
Would you prefer the original studio version:
 
 
or live?
 
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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