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Sagichim
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 02:33 | ||
Does the other side respects UN resolutions or is it not obligated to do so because its a terror organization? It's not an excuse at all, resolutions can not apply on one side. The first step into peace gotta be a cease fire between two sides the we can move on. |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65248 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 02:31 | ||
In the future, the superstate of Isralestine will gradually become a major player in the region with their integrated economy and military, for one of the great ironies in history.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 02:19 | ||
^ whatever, it still does not justify actively disrespecting the UN resolutions, one thing can not be the excuse for the other.
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Sagichim
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 02:02 | ||
Thanks buddy, we are trying hard to be safe but you never know with missiles.
I was always against the settlements but Sharon already tried to be the big man and destroyed a few of them and taking the first step, that wasn't enough for the other side of course and nothing came out of it, thousands of people were evacuated from their homes for nothing! You gotta make some compromises when you're aiming for peace but the Palestinians have never gave up on a single demand, they wanna win the jack pot or they'll burn you alive. |
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 01:23 | ||
Sagi, first of all I hope that you are safe where you are. I'm not going to take part, I am not expert enough in the subject, I am afraid that this looks like one of the world conflicts which will be the hardest to ever resolve, I can imagine a world largely in peace and still Israelis and Palestinians will be fighting each other, I'm afraid that as time goes on the younger generations will not even know why are they fighting each other, it will have become simply an embedded practice in both cultures. I'm afraid none of both sides is really interested in achieving peace, for the Palestinians it has become their raison d'etre and for Israel the art of defense has become a major economical activity.
I want to say just one thing, most countries acting against UN resolutions usually get sanctions, and I do not see it fair that Israel does not get any for not respecting the UN resolutions about the settlements policy. Respect for the UN should be a basic starting point and should be demanded from both sides. The fact that Israel is a powerful country and ally of the US does not justify being able to act against UN resolutions and not getting sanctions for it. Why can not Israel start by stopping the occupation of land which, as per the latest agreements (Oslo if I am not wrong) belonged to Palestina? then start discussing if you want to modify those agreements, but not the other way around. |
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Sagichim
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 00:32 | ||
I'm not sure you get it, the bombing of hospitals and schools were intentional not a mistake we could avoid with technology. The UN was amazed that these facilities were used as a weapon storage and a good hide out for their terrorists, well you the what's the military's answer to that right? Oh and before you say something of course there isn't a single bombing that isn't notified before to the residents, if you want to stay there during the bombing it's up to you. Edit: oh and the situation with Ireland back then, I can't comment because I'm not an expert on the subject but I'm sure the situation and history isn't really the same. And yes jaw jaw is the solution but please just tell it to Hamas first. Edited by Sagichim - July 27 2014 at 00:36 |
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ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
Posted: July 27 2014 at 00:00 | ||
I bet you would, Jim With 1950's suburbia as your location. I stand by no one. All I want is for this sh(the killings) to stop.
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 23:33 | ||
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16437 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 23:10 | ||
It's to fight the Iranian Shiite influence in Iraq and Iran.. And to balkanize the entire region.... I really feel awful for the people in the region....
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 22:33 | ||
Of course, why fix your own world when you can spend an eternity with 72 virgin maidens in heaven?
That's what you get when you have political/religious nuts running your government.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Sagichim
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 22:23 | ||
This is not an assumption buddy. I hope you've heard about the tunnels they were building, coming out of people houses and going in several directions, covered with cement equipped with electricity and transport rails for moving heavy stuff, a real work of art I admit. The army has so far discovered more than 30 tunnels used to get weapons and pretty much everything they need from Egypt. A few tunnels came out under the Israeli border and was supposed to aid them in their mega terror attack scheduled to our upcoming new years eve. They were supposed to come out of their tunnels in hundreds and slay the whole area. This was just discovered and pretty much shocked the whole country. What I wanted to say is that each huge tunnel like this cost millions to build, so just think what could they do with the money while the majority of them is so poor. |
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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13054 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 22:05 | ||
A simple internet look-up provides scores of articles showing that ISIL has commandeered huge amounts of U.S. army surplus in Iraq: howitzers, humvees, tanks and munitions. The Iraqi army is as worthless now as it was when they were led by Sadam. Run away and live another day. Edited by The Dark Elf - July 26 2014 at 22:05 |
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 22:00 | ||
They've got quite a bit of it not from other Syrian rebels but from Iraqi troops who abandoned them. Their main backers in Syria are Middle-Eastern. U.S. intelligence didn't just find out about ISIL or something; it's the same group previously called Al-Qaeda in Iraq. |
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Hail Eris!
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 21:26 | ||
If this true, then this is one of the most boneheaded decisions the U.S. government has done in recent years. Have they not learned anything from the Iran-Iraq War or the Soviet-Afghan War?
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16437 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 21:10 | ||
I have talked to someone from Syria and this is what they tell me. Whatever the US is doing, the country shouldn't be doing this... Of course, attacking Syria and then Iran is more important for them...
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65248 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 21:02 | ||
^ Well it ain't hard to buy American fatigues, or guns for that matter. Isn't that one of our main exports?
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16437 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 20:56 | ||
The US does not support ISIS/ISIL/IS, then why do they have US arms, US uniforms, US weapons and one of the more honest Senators from the US Congress mentioned this in his speech: |
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 20:54 | ||
Sorted. |
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 20:51 | ||
Also, this may be speculation, but I think the only reason that Ayatollah Shirazi condemned Boko Haram in the first place is that BH are Sunnis. The Ayatollas of Iran are Shiites.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13054 |
Posted: July 26 2014 at 20:41 | ||
My, I merely quote selected items from your beloved Ayatollah, and suddenly you go on an immature rant. Watch your tone, junior. And I do know what is going on, thanks. My Chaldean friends in Iraq are having their churches and monasteries taken away. They are being forced to convert at the end of a gun or are forced to pay a tax to remain Christian. In Palestine, the Christians have been systematically thrown out of Bethlehem by Muslims (so much for the birthplace of Christianity). Where ever Muslims are in a majority they practice their intolerance and barbaric Stone Age rituals. There is no place for this in a civilized world. |
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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