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jammun
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:00 |
You will want to be careful here.
After prog (ELP, Yes, etc.) became too bombastic for me (around 1973-1974-ish, if memory serves, which it may not), I turned to fusion as a nice source of music played by accomplished musicians. Unfortunately, fusion itself eventually became bombastic, at which point I came to enjoy the relative simplicity of The Clash, etc.
But as far a jazz-rock/fusion goes, here are recommendations:
Return to Forever (self-titled, Light As A Feather, Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy, etc.)
Mahavishnu (Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire)
Weather Report (Sweetnighter, Heavy Weather)
Herbie Hancock (Headhunters stuff, e.g., Thrust)
Keith Jarrett
This will invariably lead you to try some Miles Davis:
Bitches Brew
At The Fillmore
On The Corner
Agharta
and others too numerous to mention
Which will eventually lead you to try jazz itself -- early Miles, Coltrane, Bird, Duke Ellington, and others too numerous to mention.
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1800iareyay
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2492 |
Posted: August 03 2007 at 20:04 |
Their new album Quantum, is quite good, with Allan Holdsworth replacing MacAlpine. I think they sounded better with Tony, even though Holdsworth is the superior jazz guitarist.
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 19:58 |
Just started listening to Planet X Moonbabies...man I'm at loss of words, it sounds incredible, nice fusion of prog metal elements and jazz, never quite heard something like this, you guys better try them!!!
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Dirk
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:47 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:31 |
Good advices. About Embryo, "Rocksession" is a must. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:12 |
Also more on the prog side are a couple of European bands from the early `70s you guys should check out. Midnight Sun who were from Denmark and Eiliff from Germany. Both are on the archives and are available on CD.
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:00 |
I had never heard of Garaj Mahal until now. They actually sound pretty solid.
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glass house
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:58 |
Dirk, regarding Al di Meola, you have Return To Forever? Try them if you don't.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:47 |
I think I`ve brought this band up somewhere. Steve Smith from Journey has an on and off project called Vital Information. Their first album simply titled Vital Information ( 1983 ) is killer lots of sax & guitar freakouts. I think Wounded Bird has released it on CD along with the second one Orion ( 1984 ) which is in the same vein. If you like Cobham`s solo stuff you`ll definitely love this. They have just released a new album called Vitalization this year but I haven`t got my paws on it yet.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - August 03 2007 at 17:52 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:44 |
At least - problem is, if there is no continuous correspondence a thread drops off the bottom. However, the search engine is always recommended to avoid dupication/triplication.
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Dirk
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:01 |
Nice there's a thread about this genre now. I'm rather new to it, i enjoy Steve Hillage, Al di Meola and S.B.B but i find Mahavishnu's Innner mountain flame (and also Soft machine's Third) a bit inaccessible.Can you recommend me some albums based on these data. Thx in advance.
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Barla
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:00 |
Apart from the big classics, there's a new band that called my attention some time ago, GARAJ MAHAL. They sound very good! Definitely to check out!
www.garajmahal.net Also, another band, not really jazzy , more metallish, is ELECTROCUTION 250, who play insane music, the combination of metal, shred and cartoon music. If you're looking for ORIGINAL music, give a listen. So far they've released one album, which is very good, and on their PA page they've an mp3: www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1877 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:31 |
Well if you like Soft Machine, try Nucleus. They're sound is different, but they're still excellent. Nucleus' sound is more akin to later Soft Machine with Holdsworth (also a member of Nucleus at one time) and John Etheridge.
You may also like Quiet Sun's style of jazz rock/fusion, it's quite a lot different, yet excellent. I have Miles Davis' In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew (both with John McLaughlin) and they're excellent. I do prefer my Elton Dean-esque jazz though. |
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:28 |
lets see what that is
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darkshade
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:23 |
this thread gave me an idea for another thread.
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darkshade
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:22 |
^ Miles has a vast selection to choose from. Personally I'd go with Live-Evil or A Tribute To Jack Johnson since those are a bit easier to get into. Bitches Brew may be considered a fusion classic, and probably the first (although Hot Rats by Zappa may be the first) full out fusion album, but it's hard for the uninitiated to get into. it's VERY trippy and out there, with lots of different instrumentation. but thats my opinion.
Emergency is great, also get the Lifetime album which features Holdsworth. And if you like that album, you'll like Bruford's solo stuff.
i forgot to mention Phish since they have a hell of a lot of fusion moments.
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mystic fred
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:20 |
certainly!...a nice one though
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:18 |
Bitches Brew Big Fun Tribute to Jack Johnson Agharta Pangaea to name a few! |
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:16 |
Holy Canolli!!!! Now thats a list! I'm actually trying to acquire Tony Williams life time, the album Emergency, has already been recomended. Dark shade, which album from Miles Davies do you recommend? I only have best offs and so, i think I'm missing something...
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darkshade
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:08 |
7 for 4, Al DiMeola, Allan Holdsworth, Allen Vizzutti, Béla Fleck & The Flecktones, Bill Bruford, Billy Cobam, Billy Cobham/George Duke Band, Brand X, The Brecker Brothers, Charlie Hunter, Chick Corea Elektric Band, Colosseum, Dave Holland, Dennis Chambers, Frank Zappa, George Duke, Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorius, Jean-Luc Ponty, Jeff Beck, John Scofield, Joshua Redman Elastic Band, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Medeski Martin & Wood, Mike Stern, Miles Davis, New Jersey Kings, Pat Metheny Group, Planet X, Return To Forever, Santana, Vital Tech Tones, Soft Machine, Stanley Clarke, Stanton Moore, Steve Jenkins, Tony Williams Lifetime, Umphrey's McGee, Victor Wooten, Wayne Shorter, Weather Report...
just to name a few
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