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Noticed that I had put tracks that I have heard before at the top so far. But not the case. I hadn't listened to much Anthony Phillips before and this really stood out among these. The two tracks I know ended up 3 and 4.

1. Anthony Phillips - 5 pts
2. Alquin - 3 pts
3. Gnidrolog - 2 pts
4. Traffic - 1 pt
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Jean, very strong collection, best one so far. Hard hard hard. I didn't know the Dzyan one which is a total delight, but I can't vote against my favourite album of my favourite band.
5 Can
3 Dzyan
2 Clearlight
1 Popol Vuh
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Friede, the first four (I find High Tide a bit weaker but the other three are almost on the same level):
5 Steve Hillage
3 Embryo
2 Guru Guru
(1 1/2 Hawkwind)
1 High Tide




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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Perhaps somewhat predictably, I’m going to go for some Kiwi prog - which has the advantage of being unlikely to feature in the top 100.


Two of my favourite albums from the year of my birth (1975) are from NZ bands, so I figured I would start with tracks from them.


First up, Split Enz’s “Stranger Than Fiction”, from their debut album, “Mental Notes”.

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Followed by Dragon’s “La Gash Lagoon”, from their second album, “Scented Gardens For The Blind”.

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Ragnarok’s eponymous debut was also released in 1975, and from that album, “Caviar Queen”.

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And finally, Airlord’s “Ladies Of The Night”, from “Clockwork Revenge”.

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Not qualifying for the poll, being released in 1969 (and also not having any stand-out stand-alone tracks), “The Happy Prince” by The La De Da’s, which is generally accepted as Aotearoa’s first prog album, and first concept album.


https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbx2AF6LLbSjtXMeMXrpP3bwuEqefi7G4


I did also consider tracks from John Hanlon, Highway, The Human Instinct, and Think, but none really seemed quite right.


I possibly would have included something from From Scratch, but couldn’t find any of their ‘70s material on YouTube. So, as another bonus, here’s a From Scratch compilation I found on Bandcamp, that has a couple of ‘70s pieces on it.


https://emrecords.bandcamp.com/album/five-rhythm-works




1) Split Enz: Excellent song, atmospheric, I would say with a European mood (but aren't they New Zealanders?), Cabaret style a la Brecht. Very, very good.

2) Dragon: mini-suite with all the trappings of prog, the average tempo of the ballad prevails, but there are changes in rhythm, and the singer would have exploited his voice well in a blues band. Overall, well thought out song but without peaks.

3) Ragnarok: short song, and this is a merit for the prog. The helmet on the cover reminds me of Julianne Moore's in Big Lebowski, and I imagine the female voice as that of a naked woman wearing only that helmet. Very freak song, enjoyable, good vocal performance.

4) Airlord: New Zealand returns with fury. It starts very slow, for two minutes almost nothing happens, then comes the voice of the singer and comes the rhythm, which changes around 5 minutes, a very ambitious electric guitar is inserted, we are in the rockblues field, and it goes on in a long solo for 3 minutes. Lopsided and disproportionate song, beginning and ending too long, but inspired and genuine.


Split Enz: 5 points
Airlord: 3 points
Dragon: 2 points
Ragnarock: 1 point
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What a wonderful work, guys!
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someone_else:
I only knew the Traffic track, which isn't my favourite from that album. Actually there's a clear split between the excellent Gnidrolog and Ant Phillips, and the Traffic and Alquin that aren't much to my liking. I really need to explore more of Ant Phillips; I've heard tracks here and there that didn't impress me that much, but this one is great.
5 Ant Phillips
3 Gnidrolog
2 Traffic
1 Alquin
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I prophesy disaster:
Not that much between them for me, but I think the Hawkwind one needs to be listened loudly and in the right mood, with other Hawkwind music around it, optimally live. If I listen to these casually as I just do, it doesn't really do its magic. I don't love all Residents but you picked a great track there. The instrumental work in both Argent and Jeff Beck is very enjoyable, but Argent dragged down by the vocals.
5 Residents
3 Jeff Beck
2 Argent
1 Hawkwind
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Rrrrrrrrrreadreadread the opening posting! All of it!


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Am I missing something here? What first three?
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I prophesy disaster:

So, familiar with the first three and "Hold Your Head" is classic rock staple and one I have always enjoyed. I usually enjoy Jeff Beck and Blow by Blow is among my top fusion albums, but in this context was just self-indulgent. Have not heard much Residents before but this is what I would imagine they should sound like.

Did I mention I don’t enjoy ranking.

Argent - 5 pt
Hawkwind - 3 pt
The Residents - 2 pt
Jeff Beck - 1 pt
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Nick: From the start, I had Split Enz on top but the Airlords crept up. I enjoyed the rocking Ragnorok and, in particular, the vocals. Maybe not so prog, but not deserving of getting 1 pt. It is tough ranking these.

Split Enz - 5 pts
Airlords - 3 pts
Dragon - 2 pts
Ragnorok - 1 pt



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

George offers us a more rock oriented prog selection, which suits me perfectly fine. I never heard much of Be Bop Deluxe and this is a great - impressive - guitar based track, but maybe the most conventional of the pack. FM is the big and pleasant surprise here for me; I think I've only heard the Surveillance album, but this track is really wonderful and will incite me to listen to the album. It even "smashes" those two other that I know (and like) very well, Colosseum II and Utopia. So, my points go to:

1. FM - Black Noise: 5 points
2. Colosseum II - The Scorch: 3 points
3. Utopia - Overture: The Mountaintop and Sunrise / Communion with the Sun: 2 poiit ts
4. Be Bop Deluxe - No Trains to Heaven: 1 point


Black Noise is by far FM's best album and only one worth listening to in my opinion.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Then, I love almost everything Jasper van 't Hof is involved in, even his cheesier work (Dutch cheese is famous!). 

His solo on Frau Theunissens Kegel is outright spectacular in my view. Rarely heard anything as good as that on keyboards. My keyboarder friend and music partner likes very civilised melodic music, but once in a while he runs wild like this (if admittedly not quite that virtuous) and it makes me so happy... although I have my doubts whether these are the bits of his own playing he likes most. Wink
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Some supposedly cool stuff is lost on me and already was when I was getting into music around 1980. Already then Split Enz and particularly early Roxy Music were for those in the know (who also knew better what to wear to impress the girls) while I was listening to Pink Floyd and Eloy. Couldn't impress anyone in this way, just loved it more... 40 years on and still I don't get some of that stuff. Luckily I find Nick's other offerings very enjoyable, particularly that Airlord track.
5 Airlord
3 Dragon
2 Ragnarok
1 Split Enz


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Had to listen to Nick's selection again to come to a decision regarding the points. Not that it helped, BTW. It was clear from the start that Split Enz would end up on top, but ranking the other three becomes a bit more arbitrary. I didn't know Airlord, nor Dialog, and I find just a bit more originality in the former. I also very much like the up-tempo tight rhythm of the Ragnarok track, which becomes as such the trouble maker to rank these... In the end:

1. Split Enz: 5 points
2. Airlord: 3 points
3. Ragnarok: 2 points
4. Dragon: 1 point

Christian's selection was maybe one of the easiest to rank, for the number one and the number four spots were immediately obvious to me. Then, I love almost everything Jasper van 't Hof is involved in, even his cheesier work (Dutch cheese is famous!). Hadn't heard the Birth Control album since a very long while and forgot it was this good. The Manfred Mann's EB outing here is the least convincing. I never heard of Luciano Cilio, but this track alone is mesmerizingly beautiful, evoking something mysteriously intriguing, or intriguingly mysterious. So, without hesitation:

1. Luciano Cilio: 5 points (he deserves more!)
2. Association P.C.: 3 points
3. Birth Control: 2 points (they deserve more too, but well...)
4. Manfred Mann's Earth Band: 1 point

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I prophesy disaster


I’ve ranked these selections in the order that they appear, although definitely after Argent, and perhaps after Hawkwind, the order is more or less equal, and I simply went with the order they appear rather than have to make the effort to rank them in what would essentially be a fairly arbitrary order.


Argent (five points)

Hawkwind (three points)

Jeff Beck (two points)

Residents (one point)


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I had never heard (of) Alquin, before Kees posted them earlier in this poll. They topped his selections for me, and came close to doing the same here, too.


Gnidrolog (5 points)

Alquin (3 points)

Ant Phillips (2 points)

Traffic (1 point)


Jean


It seems to be the case that for each of the sets of four tracks offered in this poll, two I’m familiar with, and two I’m not. It probably comes as no surprise that the two I’m familiar with here are Can and Popul Vuh, but where do they come in my ranking?


Dyzan (5 points)

Clearlight (3 points)

Popul Vuh (2 points)

Can (1 point)


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And with George, I’ve managed to rank all the albums on the first page of the poll - with the exception of Friede, who like me has made a counting error. 


Be Bop Deluxe (5 points)

Colosseum II (3 points)

Utopia (2 points)

FM (1 point)
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For Kees:

Grobschnitt - 5 pts - theatrical prog. I had not heard this before. It's a fun track.

Saga - 3 pts - I've enjoyed them through their first 5 albums

Alquin - 2 pts - not familiar with them nor Ange. I like this a bit more. The music reminded me of Traffic. A good thing.


Ange - 1 pts



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Kees:
Humble Stance is an all time favourite; it's very hard to put a ranking on the others. But I play the game:
5 Saga
3 Ange
2 Grobschnitt
1 Alquin
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5 Henry Cow
3 Tim Buckley
2 Quatermass
1 Roxy Music
The only one I didn't know was the Quatermass track, which is actually quite good, but both Henry Cow and Tim Buckley are very strong. Not that keen on Roxy Music.
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My votes so far:

jamesbaldwin:
1. Henry Cow (5 points)
2. Tim Buckley (3 points)
3. Roxy Music (2 points)
4. Quatermass (1 point)

suitkees:
1. Grobschnitt (5 points)
2. Alquin (3 points)
3. Ange (2 points)
4. Saga (1 point)

nick_n_hz:
1. Airlord (5 points)
2. Split Enz (3 points)
3. Ragnarok (2 points)
4. Dragon (1 points)
A close call!

I prophesy disaster:
1. Argent (5 points) by default. I almost picked this one for similar reasons. I fell in love with this one in 1972 at age 12 when I heard the organ solo for the first time.
2. The Residents (3 points)
3. Hawkwind (2 points)
4. Jeff Beck (1 point)
I could have arranged the latter three in any order.

BaldFriede (the first four):
1. High Tide - 5 points (I love this one)
2. Steve Hillage - 3 points
3. Embryo - 2 points
4. Guru Guru - 1 point (I find it hard to appreciate the first 7 minutes)
I would have ranked Hawkwind between High Tide and Steve Hillage.

BaldJean:
1. Popol Vuh (5 points)
2. Clearlight (3 points)
3. Can (2 points)
4. Dzyan (1 point)

mathman0806:
1. Colosseum II (5 points)
2. FM (3 points)
3. Utopia (2 points)
4. Be Bop Deluxe (1 point)

Lewian:
1. Luciano Cilio (5 points)
2. Manfred Mann's Earth Band (3 points)
3. Association PC (2 points)
4. Birth Control (1 point)



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