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HolyMoly 
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 Posted: February 03 2013 at 17:37 |
 timothy leary wrote:
Hoping to see Ray Lewis's career come to an end with a loss today. |
That would be nice.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 17:05 |
I feel like both Wilson AND Luck were robbed of votes for Offensive RotY, but what can you do?
And yep, go Ravens!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 15:07 |
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I'll just leave you all with this...
Go Ravens!
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 13:52 |
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Like you said it is popularity and nothing else. To compare Wilson to Tebow is just lame. RGII's injury cannot be good for his future. As for the Steelers I have to wonder is DeCastro going to amount to anything? I also wonder how many bad seasons Tomlin has to have before he gets the ax. Hoping to see Ray Lewis's career come to an end with a loss today. Just some more hype.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 13:23 |
timothy leary wrote:
Wilson.........Teams beat: Dal (8-7), GB (12-3), Car (6-9), NE (12-3), Min (9-6), NYJ (6-9), Chi (9-6), Ari (5-10), Buf (5-10), SF (10-4-1): combined w/l total: 82-67-1
RGII....... Teams beat::N.O, (7-8), TB (6-9), Min (9-6), Phi (4-11), Dal (8-7), NYG (8-7), Bal (10-5), Cle (5-10), Phi (4-11), combined w/l total: 61-75 
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RGIII also looked horrible vs my crappy Steelers.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 13:21 |
timothy leary wrote:
Yeah, your right he is a dog, as for what I am smoking, you are the one predicting the future. Come back to the here and now and settle down. RGIII won the popularity contest, that is all, hype.......now grab your pipe. |
He's not only nuts to think that RGIII should've gotten the award but also nuts to see RGIII as having a brighter future than Wilson. Did he not see RGIII's leg crumble under him like a match stick in the playoff game? All you need to say, to point out how silly RGIII's win was, is two names: Morris and Cousins.
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Padraic
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 12:06 |
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Like the Niners tonight.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 11:04 |
Wilson......... Teams beat: Dal (8-7), GB (12-3), Car (6-9), NE (12-3), Min (9-6), NYJ (6-9), Chi (9-6), Ari (5-10), Buf (5-10), SF (10-4-1): combined w/l total: 82-67-1
RGII....... Teams beat::N.O, (7-8), TB (6-9), Min (9-6), Phi (4-11), Dal (8-7), NYG (8-7), Bal (10-5), Cle (5-10), Phi (4-11), combined w/l total: 61-75
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 10:55 |
Yeah, your right he is a dog, as for what I am smoking, you are the one predicting the future. Come back to the here and now and settle down. RGIII won the popularity contest, that is all, hype.......now grab your pipe.
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dennismoore
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 10:34 |
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Fact - Wilson faced the toughest schedule of all three quarterbacks and it's not even close. Fact - Despite facing an incredibly tougher schedule that Robert Griffin, Wilson's statistics were either better, just as good, or barely behind. The stats were well ahead of Luck. Fact - Wilson took over basically the same team that Tarvaris Jackson had, but led them to the biggest increase in DVOA and Offensive DVOA. This gives us the best idea of what Wilson was truly worth to his team. Fact - In the second half of the season, Wilson had an argument for being one of the top five quarterbacks in the league, if not the best. His QBR over the last 11 games was tops in the NFL. He was also the best home quarterback in the NFL. As he got better and as the offense developed around him, Wilson avenged all 3 NFC West losses and played good or great throughout. He also improved his road numbers dramatically. Fact - Even if there was such a thing as clutch, Luck did not display any more of it than Wilson did and in fact, Wilson had significantly more touchdowns during the season that gave his team the lead or tie. They also came against some of the league's best teams, including the Patriots when down 13 points in the fourth, and the Bears (the number one defense in the NFL) in Chicago. Fact - When examining the season game-by-game, Wilson consistently had the most good performances and the fewest bad performances. When I had finished, there just weren't many areas where Russell Wilson was behind Luck or Griffin. He had more interceptions than Griffin but way fewer than Luck. He had fewer rushing yards than Griffin, but significantly more than Luck. He had more throwing touchdowns than Luck or Griffin and the highest total number of touchdowns. The Seahawks went 11-5 in the toughest pass defense division in the NFL, not in the AFC South and not 10-6 in the NFC East. |
Hey Dude, The "real" facts are in and RGIII is the Rookie Of The Year:"Griffin earned 29 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members, well ahead of Luck’s 11 and Wilson’s 10"... Turns out "fact" is you have been taking advantage of Washington State's new Mary-Jane law and have been puffing the pipe a bit too much.  In your altered state you forgot that Russel Wilson did not win, because the professionals voting for MVP knew that he is: Too Short History will show him to be a one hit wonder Played only half a season Two of his wins were given to him by blind luck, one a Hail Mary (like some drunk winning a half-cout basketball shot at halftime of a Super-Sonics's game - yes enjoy the chump Sacramento Kings, by the way..) AND the other was given to him by a lingerie official which the NFL admitted was a travesty and should have been Seahawk loss... And he played in a pathetic division, the Cardinals & Rams. Are you kidding??? Matter of fact Russel Wilson is simply this year's Tim Tebow. Another guy who snuck in as a wild card by pure luck. In Tebow's case each team he faced had just lost their starting QB to injury... yep.  If Russel Wilson grows any this off season and cracks the 5'10" barrier, let us know, um kay?  P.S. And here i was thinking I was gonna be nice, in this thread and not talk smack like all the other clowns...
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 10:23 |
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^ That I can understand.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 00:40 |
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And at least AP won the MVP over Manning.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 23:48 |
timothy leary wrote:
RGIII rookie of the year by a big margin. Disappointed that Wilson did not win it. |
Figures really...once we all said the other two were more deserving that meant a direct ticket to OROTY for Bob-o.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 22:59 |
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I agree. The hype can't be beaten. I would take Wilson over RGIII anyday.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 21:47 |
timothy leary wrote:
RGIII rookie of the year by a big margin. Disappointed that Wilson did not win it. |
Seriously? How? Had to have been awarded entirely on hype because he shouldn't have even been the first choice on his own team. Seems like a sorry statement about the importance of commercial appeal. It's certainly not the absolute disgrace that is the continued denial of Jerome Bettis to the Hall of Fame, though.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 20:01 |
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RGIII rookie of the year by a big margin. Disappointed that Wilson did not win it.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 19:47 |
san fran......28 baltimore....17
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 17:42 |
Knees Pollard forever! And I'm feeling something around 24-20. Maybe 27-24.
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 11:58 |
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The Ravens D is playing better, and as we know the big four of Ngata, Lewis, Suggs and Reed are ironically not really the kings. Suggs is still not 100%, Reed makes the occasional play but seems pretty quiet, we know Lewis isn't at his prime and Ngata is good but not a dominating force. It's the guys like Kruger, Ellerbee and Pollard that are key contributors!
Which is why I just can't be sold. Niners can be explosive at lot of positions, I just think in the end it ends up breaking the Ravens D.
Though San Frans pass rush has really died when Justin Smith got hurt, they can still cover though but Flacco and co have got going on offense. It may be close but I don't think low.....31-28? Both low 30s, something in that range.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 03:40 |
Truth. If I only had a sister to impregnant with Marino's sperm... And ditto. I'll also take the under on the vegas odds board. All that said I'll be pullin' hard for the birds. It does worry me a bit how everyone and their dead realives is predicting a close game. Makes me think I shouldn't put a blowout on my backburner.
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