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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:23
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Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:

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I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.




Why should one have to pay extra for insurance?  The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service.  If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss.

Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive?


I'm taking about a high value item.
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I'm talking about any item.

If I pay a moving company to transport my furniture from one house to a new house, and they wind up destroying it all, should I be compensated for my loss, or is it just "too bad, you didn't pay for the insurance?"

Just read the fine print in any thing you sign. Sometimes that kind of ridiculous idea is hidden there. 

Anyway, now seriously, I agree with you. When you pay for a service, you expect it to be performed or compensated. When you buy something, you expect it to work, or get a refund. In this case you are paying for a service AND sending something of inherent value. You should be compensated if it gets lost, for two concurrent reasons: 1) service was not provided; 2) Item of inherent value -even if it's just personal value-has been lost.  Insurance is quite stupid. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:09
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:


I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.




Why should one have to pay extra for insurance?  The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service.  If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss.

Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive?


I'm taking about a high value item.
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I'm talking about any item.

If I pay a moving company to transport my furniture from one house to a new house, and they wind up destroying it all, should I be compensated for my loss, or is it just "too bad, you didn't pay for the insurance?"

I've dealt with moving companies where the latter is pretty much the policy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:08
Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:


I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.




Why should one have to pay extra for insurance?  The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service.  If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss.

Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive?


I'm taking about a high value item.
Tony C.


I'm talking about any item.

If I pay a moving company to transport my furniture from one house to a new house, and they wind up destroying it all, should I be compensated for my loss, or is it just "too bad, you didn't pay for the insurance?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:51
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:


I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.




Why should one have to pay extra for insurance?  The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service.  If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss.

Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive?


I'm taking about a high value item.
Tony C.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:37
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Should people pay for insurance if the pizza they ordered caused them stomach indigestion? 





No.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:35
Should people pay for insurance if the pizza they ordered caused them stomach indigestion? 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:32
Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001 clarkpegasus4001 wrote:


I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.




Why should one have to pay extra for insurance?  The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service.  If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss.

Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2011 at 00:22
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Send it through private companies.

I use UPS for anything besides letters. The sole problem I had was quickly followed by a refund and multiple apologies. I've also worked for them before. Grade A company.


I'm pleased that UPS sorted out your problem.
I actually work for them in the UK.
I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted.
As a footnote, more and more cd shops are closing, I hear HMV are going as well. I'd much sooner have a physical cd/vinyl with artwork than download anything.
Please don't give up on your postal system it ain't that bad. PS: Try to pack your package properly and put an address that's legible on it! (that's not a dig at the original poster of this thread by the way).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2011 at 23:00
I have never had a problem with any of the mailing companies, USPS, UPS or FedEx. I order quite a few packages and use Netflix frequently and not once has there been an issue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2011 at 13:31
Here, the postal system will get worse and more mismanaged than in recent years, if that is possible, in order to prepare the way for privatisation. Then, instead of an inefficient public service (run down from its grand heyday deliberately) we will have a crap private postal system, with no public accountability whatsoever. Sound familiar?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2011 at 05:54
Here in Germany the problem is that a lot of delivery service is outsourced to external companies, and a lot of them are either incompetent or bent (I know that from repeated personal experience and when uncovered, it's been in the media). The joys of privatisation.

On the other hand we must agree that the post has a price stability beyond belief for years and years; the price of any postage stamp has remained completely unchanged.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 17:15
Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

What is is it with prog fans and nostalgic feelings of loss?


Good question. LOL This issue affects most threads on this forum.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:47
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

US' version's efficiency.

They should have more employees in their offices though... There's always a line.
uh, have you not been in a retail store in the past ten years or so? Underemployment is condoned.
(I would rather have self-checkout, which is why I do a lot of my grocery shopping at Ralph's)


What is is it with prog fans and nostalgic feelings of loss?


Edited by KoS - January 19 2011 at 16:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:42
What r u sending/requesting in the mail? Most things should be paperless now including musicErmm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:15
Packages have been delivered to my house by my neighbours. Mostly this happens during the holiday rush when the post office hires temps to assist the regular mail carrier. It's a bit of a mouse trap to get yourself into. I prefer UPS and they have proven to me in the past that they can fix a problem. The prog vendor who hires extra people to pull orders in the warehouse and they print half of your previous address and half of your new one. The package will sit on a shelf in a UPS building until you call....which is really cool because your shipment has not been subjected to theives or smucks who will toss it in a trashcan. After you identify yourself over the phone and specify the new address, UPS will deliver your package that day. Most mix ups in things such as the wrong address printed by the sender or a lost package 75 percent of the time has to do with the flaws performed by extra hired help in a shipping department.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:12
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I think Royal Mail is pretty good. Always get what I order.
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usually ok unless snow or Xmas disrupts things, but tracking important for anything over a tenner, i wonder what happens to all those lost parcels and letters though...Unhappy
 
 
I believe they normally fall down the back of the radiator in the sorting office, to be found years later when the office is redecorated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:55
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I think Royal Mail is pretty good. Always get what I order.
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usually ok unless snow or Xmas disrupts things, but tracking important for anything over a tenner, i wonder what happens to all those lost parcels and letters though...Unhappy
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:49
There have been quite a few letters in the papers recently about people not receiving parcels. I guess there was a problem over Christmas with the snow impacting the service, but to be honest I send quite a few parcels out for eBay sales and have not had a problem yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 02:35
Works fine enough


UPS is good though.
However, having to deal with them at work...some of their drivers piss me off LOL


Edited by JJLehto - January 19 2011 at 02:41
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