Another nail in the coffin: The postal system
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Topic: Another nail in the coffin: The postal system
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Subject: Another nail in the coffin: The postal system
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 14:56
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Is it just me or am I the only one who spots this trend with a steady decline in the mail and package delivery system ? In this day and age + with insane high mail and package sending prices, you should expect that letters and packages delivery is more reliable than ever. They even have bar codes now on packages. But no. My national package services has managed to loose three corpses/bodies from Australia. Their whereabouts are unknown. Not in the same league, but I get a lot of tidbits and remarks from indiependent artists and bands who loose some packages they are sending out to their customers. Several artists has actually closed their webshops now due to this issue. Due to the postage services, and I use "service" here in a very liberal meaning of the word, is so unreliable that it cannot be trusted. Those of you in USA can use FedExpress and UPS. Those networks are not that big here in Europe though and their collection depots somewhere in faraway locations. In short; this is another nail in the coffin of the distribution and retailing of music CDs, LPs, cassettes and DVDs. Are we all being forced over to broadbands, music downloads, computers and external harddrives ? Any comments ?
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 15:04
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Send it through private companies. I use UPS for anything besides letters. The sole problem I had was quickly followed by a refund and multiple apologies. I've also worked for them before. Grade A company. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 15:07
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I agree, I've only had one instance of a lost package in the mail, and UPS did a thorough job making sure I was refunded for the order and kept informed on the status of the package. -------------  
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 15:15
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I've never had a problem with our post. There will always be a place for package delivery. Letter post? The future seems less bright except for those specific cases where hard signatures are required on docs.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 15:32
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Our US postal service has cost us almost $150. Wonder if they'll let us take it out of our student loans.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 16:23
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As I said before, I still thing USPS is rather decent. But maybe, as I've said in the libertarian thread many times before, is because the service in my country is so horrible that I'm still baffled at the US' version's efficiency.
They should have more employees in their offices though... There's always a line.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 16:27
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I think Royal Mail is pretty good. Always get what I order. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 16:47
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I have never had any problems with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correios" rel="nofollow - Correios here.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 17:23
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I equate the USPS and private companies like UPS and FedEx or whatever you like in terms of how good they perform. Sure, I've had problems with the USPS, but I've had problems with the others as well. And, really, I use the USPS alot more often, so percentage wise they are probably better.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 17:50
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I don't recall having any problems with the USPS. But I have had problems with services in some other countries.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 18:04
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I never had problems with "Serpost" I received at least 60 CD's during the last 4 years and always complete and with a reasonable delay. Seems that at least Peruvian Post works well. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 18:40
| The postal service in Romania is awful, like any other public service there. In France, both the public mail and the private courriers work quite fine, I haven't had any problems so far. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 19:32
Endless torture for at least two thousand years? Every day ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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toroddfuglesteg wrote:Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 19:45
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USPS has never let me down .. well okay maybe once or twice in over 40 years, not bad |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 02:28
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I've never had a problem with USPS. Meh.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 02:35
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Works fine enough UPS is good though. However, having to deal with them at work...some of their drivers piss me off  |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:49
| There have been quite a few letters in the papers recently about people not receiving parcels. I guess there was a problem over Christmas with the snow impacting the service, but to be honest I send quite a few parcels out for eBay sales and have not had a problem yet. |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:55
usually ok unless snow or Xmas disrupts things, but tracking important for anything over a tenner, i wonder what happens to all those lost parcels and letters though...
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:56
| ^ They go to heaven? |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:12
I believe they normally fall down the back of the radiator in the sorting office, to be found years later when the office is redecorated.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:15
| Packages have been delivered to my house by my neighbours. Mostly this happens during the holiday rush when the post office hires temps to assist the regular mail carrier. It's a bit of a mouse trap to get yourself into. I prefer UPS and they have proven to me in the past that they can fix a problem. The prog vendor who hires extra people to pull orders in the warehouse and they print half of your previous address and half of your new one. The package will sit on a shelf in a UPS building until you call....which is really cool because your shipment has not been subjected to theives or smucks who will toss it in a trashcan. After you identify yourself over the phone and specify the new address, UPS will deliver your package that day. Most mix ups in things such as the wrong address printed by the sender or a lost package 75 percent of the time has to do with the flaws performed by extra hired help in a shipping department. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:42
What r u sending/requesting in the mail? Most things should be paperless now including music ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:47
uh, have you not been in a retail store in the past ten years or so? Underemployment is condoned. (I would rather have self-checkout, which is why I do a lot of my grocery shopping at Ralph's) What is is it with prog fans and nostalgic feelings of loss?
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 17:15
Good question. This issue affects most threads on this forum. |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 05:54
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Here in Germany the problem is that a lot of delivery service is outsourced to external companies, and a lot of them are either incompetent or bent (I know that from repeated personal experience and when uncovered, it's been in the media). The joys of privatisation. On the other hand we must agree that the post has a price stability beyond belief for years and years; the price of any postage stamp has remained completely unchanged. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 13:31
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Here, the postal system will get worse and more mismanaged than in recent years, if that is possible, in order to prepare the way for privatisation. Then, instead of an inefficient public service (run down from its grand heyday deliberately) we will have a crap private postal system, with no public accountability whatsoever. Sound familiar?
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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 23:00
| I have never had a problem with any of the mailing companies, USPS, UPS or FedEx. I order quite a few packages and use Netflix frequently and not once has there been an issue. |
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 00:22
I'm pleased that UPS sorted out your problem. I actually work for them in the UK. I don't think it's the mail service that's the problem anyway, at the end of the day if you insure your package you will get a refund if it's lost right? More and more folk choose to download which is going to impact on cd sales being sold and posted. As a footnote, more and more cd shops are closing, I hear HMV are going as well. I'd much sooner have a physical cd/vinyl with artwork than download anything. Please don't give up on your postal system it ain't that bad. PS: Try to pack your package properly and put an address that's legible on it! (that's not a dig at the original poster of this thread by the way). Tony C. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:32
Why should one have to pay extra for insurance? The post office is providing a service and I am paying for that service. If they fail to safely deliver whatever it is I am sending, then I should be compensated for my loss. Should people have to pay for insurance in case the pizza they ordered and already paid for doesn't arrive? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:35
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Should people pay for insurance if the pizza they ordered caused them stomach indigestion? -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:37
No. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 10:51
I'm taking about a high value item. Tony C. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:08
I'm talking about any item. If I pay a moving company to transport my furniture from one house to a new house, and they wind up destroying it all, should I be compensated for my loss, or is it just "too bad, you didn't pay for the insurance?" ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:09
I've dealt with moving companies where the latter is pretty much the policy.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:23
Just read the fine print in any thing you sign. Sometimes that kind of ridiculous idea is hidden there. Anyway, now seriously, I agree with you. When you pay for a service, you expect it to be performed or compensated. When you buy something, you expect it to work, or get a refund. In this case you are paying for a service AND sending something of inherent value. You should be compensated if it gets lost, for two concurrent reasons: 1) service was not provided; 2) Item of inherent value -even if it's just personal value-has been lost. Insurance is quite stupid. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:26
Damn skippy. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:33
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I had to google your response . "Damn skippy". You're killing the language Rob -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:38
I sense a disturbance in the force. Would you regulate this issue over the interests of the private companies so that the interest of the consumer is protected more? That's so... socialistic of you |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:41
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^He's complaining about USPS, hardly a private company. -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:46
They were discussing the mail service in general. If a regulation is imposed, it would affect both the public and the private mail companies just the same. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:04
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That's why it would be better to de-regulate. That way the consumer can choose the option that will pay him if the fools lose his mail. -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:20
Derugulate what exactly? As far as I know, there isn't any company offering refund in the simple price of the mailing, hence Rob's cry for a solution. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:25
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Maybe because there is a big giant public mail service that doesn't offer this type of refund or compensation, the private ones just follow suit knowing there's no need to innovate in that issue. Anyway, postal service is not really one of my major concerns. USPS, Fedex and UPS work decently enough. -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:43
| I don't have any actual information on this so I'm just speculating, but that looks rather like a situation where the customer's rights could be inforced either by regulation or, maybe (0,1% probability?) anti monopoly/cartel measures. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 13:15
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^Maybe raising the prices of postal services, thus in the end doing harm to the customer. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 13:50
UPS will reimburse the shipper for lost or damaged good without the need for insurance on a package. I assume FedEx has an identical policy. Maybe deregulation by eliminating the USPS and its monopoly on mail delivery. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 13:57
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What monopoly, if there are other companies? This is the first time I hear about a company including full refunding in the standard mailing cost, kudos to them. |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 13:58
Why?
USPS is a great service! Besides, it keeps UPS and FedEX from jacking up the prices of thier services. Not everything needs to be deregulated or defederalized
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 13:59
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There are other companies which deliver packages. The only one which is legally allowed to deliver letters is the USPS. They're also the only ones allowed to place their deliveries in mail boxes.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:00
That's nonsense. For one they're cheaper in most areas anyway. Also, the USPS services cost more than the price you pay since it's funded partly by taxes. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:01
I see, but I wouldn't call that a monopoly. |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:05
Obviously the main purpose of the postal service is easy taxation and its nice of the government to let me piggyback my letters on it. I realize your views, and that you will disagree but I think there are much bigger problems than reforming an inexpensive yet effective government system.
As far as being the only service to use mailboxes it helps prevent mail theft and streamlines the system. You can get symaler boxes for newspapers, if UPS wanted to pay for me to get a mail box for UPS it would be different but private corperations don't have that kind of ability for the most part that the govenment does ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:07
Ok?
If they make me a better offer delivering pacages thats fine and perhaps i will use them but I don't see why that means that the USPS should cease to exist. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:16
Ummmm, how not? They're the only company which provides a particular service. They're the only company allowed by law to provide the service. That is a monopoly by definition. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:17
That means that I shouldn't be taxed to allow you to send your letters at a lower price. I don't care that it exists. I care that it's funded by tax revenue, and that law prevents other companies from providing the same services that they do. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:24
Why would the main purpose of the post office be taxation? Why not just pass a tax? That would allow you to spend the money anywhere. How does that prevent theft exactly? Me placing a package in your mailbox has nothing to do with theft. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:27
send more letters to make up for the tax if you have a problem with it ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:31
Great logic bro. Perhaps I should just mug you once a week to make my beer cheaper? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:32
intrinsically it doesnt prevent theft but it allows for easyer discrimination between who should and shouldnt have their hand in your mailbox if you can just visually see if they have a USPS uniform. again, if FedEX wants to pay to build me a mailbox thats cool, but so far they havn't. why should the government allow private corperations to use somthing for a system that they invested in. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:37
You just said it was for taxation. Which is it? Why couldn't the government use a private company to send its mail? I have a good litmus test for someone being in your mailbox: If he's taking something - bad. If he's giving something - good. The government didn't build your mailbox. I don't know what you mean by a system it invested in. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:40
I'm in as well.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:41
If we get enough people it will be a democratic act and there can be no complaints. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 14:56
Could we threaten him with broken beer bottles? It would be like our calling card.        ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:00
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Hmmmm. This is all coming together. I'll make T-Shirts.
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:13
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[/QUOTE] UPS will reimburse the shipper for lost or damaged good without the need for insurance on a package. [/QUOTE] Thanks! I thought this was the case but I was gonna check at work tonight but it seems you answered my question. Anyway, I just scan the packages or stack em' in vehicles and cans. I use USPS when I buy music gear from the USA such as my bass and both my guitars, because they were expensive, I always take out insurance as a matter of course, but not on letters. I've not had any probs with USPS. Tony C. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:17
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SHUT UP AND GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:24
If only I had any......... Tony C. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:27
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Tony C.: you are the second person on this website that always signs every single post with your name at the bottom. I'm not sure we need two... -------------
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:28
Yeah I dunno why, I must stop that! To......NEARLY!  |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:29
Tony, you might be interested in knowing that there's a signature feature you can access on the members control panel (upper left hand corner). Click "profile," and find "signature." Type "Tony C." in that box and it will appear at the end of all your posts automatically. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:29
"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:35
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great post from The (liber)T(arian)
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:36
Thanks Rob. I thinks it's habit that I always sign it , I am on 2 other forums, I always sign it even my emails.  god knows why? i'll look at the signature feature ta |
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 15:38
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Done!
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:01
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:31
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:32
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:36
lol ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:50
Good. You've basically proved that an all-intrusive government creates a nation of lazy thieves...  -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 16:56
Damn look at T!  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 17:01
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Too much reading and seeing what happens in my country and in Cuba (my girlfriends' country) does wonders in one's mind... But specially, liberating yourself from mental lazyness and psychological chains of dependence... -------------
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 17:02
| Where would we hang the posters of the bad guys w/o the post office?? |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 17:48
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 17:56
Glad you weren't around during the Revolution.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:01
I believe in the masses making decisions, if the majority of americans wanted change I wouldn't so much mind... although I would probably go somewhere else until the bad bit was over.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:03
Which one?  The American one, I presume? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:05
Do you know if the majority of Americans want change or not? Have you asked them? And as for comfort and safety trumping morality and liberty, we have had a lot of that throughout our history. Still do. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:06
Yes, that one. Though, given his "I'll hide while things get ugly" bit, probably most of them would apply. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:13
lol, http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-17-postal-service-use-changes_N.htm" rel="nofollow - most people really don't get upset about the postal system .
And the Revolutionary War has been incredibly mythologized, but oh well. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:16
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Just a couple of cents worth...
The USPS does an okay job, if you have a mail carrier who gives a sh*t, and unfortunately many don't. Our current one is good. That being said, going to an actual post office to buy stamps or mail a package is a joke, as the employees are utterly disinterested, though really nowhere near as disinterested as them folks at the local DMV.
FedEx, in my area, sucks. I live in a cul-de-sac of about 9 houses. These are not McMansions my friends, but rather typical 60's-era ranch-style houses. The addressses are posted on the front of the house, as was the wont back in those days. FedEx just drops packages off wherever, any house'll do. Fortunately I have good neighbors...sometimes I force them to be good neighbors, some of them...who are quick to redeliver misdelivered packages to my door. And no I don't have a gun. Well actually, I do. But I've found putting a big ass pork shoulder on the smoker, and sharing said bounty, works wonders on the hesitant or obstinate.
UPS rocks. The driver on our route is a great guy, always happy, unlike the USPS drivers. Let me repeat...he's happy to be delivering a package to me and over the years we've gotten some sizeable packages. My son worked for UPS his first two years of college. They cover tuition/books. They pay you for the work you do. Downside, ya gotta be down at the airport at 3:00 AM to start unloading and scanning. Upside, you're free for the remainder of the day, to attend class, and UPS is happy to cover it all.
When I have to ship something, is there any question as to where I go? Didn't think so.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:20
What, drop the sixth day of postal delivery??? In France, this would mean WAR! We tend to use the Saturday to send presents that should be given on Sundays. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:20
Quite incongruent with his nickname, used for a revolution, one of the most "revolutionary" ones. Quite a complacent Proletariat, a typical result...  -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:30
Thanks Henry for the article that really has nothing to do with what we're talking about. I knew I could count on you! Mythologized? Did i say anything that was factually incorrect about the Revolution? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:35
UPS kicks ass. I've never had a problem with them and their people are always friendly. UPS also knocks on doors. I've seen FedEx people leave packages on neighbors' front porches without so much as a tap. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:38
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It is relevant because at the bottom it says that 87% of people think the postal service does a good job and it was the only professional poll I could find easily. I didn't realize you felt so strongly about the postal service. Maybe we need to get a libertarian W.A.S.T.E. going in here. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:40
| Most of the time the system works, it's just horribly inefficient. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:46
What's a libertarian W.A.S.T.E? -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:52
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 18:53
Approval ratings? This doesn't change that the USPS is an antiquated governmental monopoly. And an inefficient one as well. We Address Stupid Totalitarian Enterprises  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 19:06
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Here's something I don't get either. The USPS spends about $2.3 billion on fuel to deliver mail each year. Funny thing about environmentalist, big-government liberals... ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |