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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:31

I got in love with early Genesis as a teenager (13) and still am both a 70s Genesis fan and a teenager (18)

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:25

Logan wrote:

My wife is very tolerant of the music I like provided it's on softly.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:16

I'm fifteen and love early Genesis. They used to be my favorite band.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:41

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Absolutely not, ignore all of the teenagers at PA who claim to enjoy such music and at other prog sites and discount people such as myself who listened to such music when they were teens and earlier and remember really liking it back then, but are really false memories, cause they don't count. It's completely delusional. The only music teenagers can really enjoy is Magma, Univers Zero and the like.

To put it in teen-speak, wurdah Genesis! ;)

Seriously, my daughter's been enjoying some music I like since she was very small, she's now six, as long as it's not horrifyingly bizarre. She likes Magma and William Sheller. My son's favourite (three) is a Jean-Paul Vannier track which he calls the "uh-uh' song and often requests it.

I just played my daughter and son some early Genesis, "Fireside Song" off Genesis first, and they didn't seem to like it.

Ok well as you are only 10 years old according to your profile

I will talk to you in understandable english

early Genesis = very good

Post Gabriel Genesis up to Duke = satisfactory

Post Duke up to last album = very bad

seriously I would not play Magma in front of my kids as they would run for cover and i would get the LOOK from my wife.

But she likes Collins, so we have some mutual agreement here that our kids could listen to Genesis without argument so I am going for that.

My daughter actually likes "Cuckoo Cocoon" and it was unfair of me to test her with a track from From Genesis to Revelation.

This is what got her into Magma when she was about three: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gt7f_jade-chante-magma_music

Watching videos of kids singing or playing "prog" can work wonders. More of us who have young kids might considering making such vids in or order to progelytize the kids at a very early age. That worked wonders in Magmatizing her, and even led her to invent her own language called Im.

My wife is very tolerant of the music I like provided it's on softly. I wouldn't play Comus in front of the kids or wife. She's not a music lover, though. We do both like Abba and various J-pop stuff.

Edited by Logan - June 07 2010 at 20:47

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:25

Fifteen years old here and I enjoy a little bit of the Genesis every once in awhile. I'm more into Tangerine Dream and that kind of stuff, but you can never go wrong with the early Genesis.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:06

Heh, my relationships with Genesis have been weird, to say least. I even remember writing some bashing posts on this forum LOL All problems stemmed ever since I first listened to Foxtrot. I couldn't really get into that whole Supper's Ready thing, which I considered (and still do) one of the most over-rated songs in the history of prog. That got me quite an aversion to Genesis' music. Then, bit-by-bit, I started to sink my toe again in their music: First "Selling England", then "Trespass" and it went on and on...

Now Genesis is one of my most favorites :)

So my advice: if you wan't to get a teenage girl to listen to Genesis, put either something less complicated ("Dusk", "After The Ordeal") or something overtly romantic ("One For The Vine").

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:06

I'm 17 and i've been listening to Genesis for about 2 years now, so yes, they can Smile

I've got everything from their debut through Wind & Wuthering.

Just from my own experiences and observations, it's around age 13-15 that kids will start to develop their musical tastes beyond whatever their parents listen to or what's on the radio. Typically you get those who like classic rock, those who like metal, those who like pop/hip-hop, and in rare cases those who like prog (the cool ones Wink

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:45

I enjoyed reading everybody's posts.

But I just remembered that my young pre-teen daughter loved "sherazade" by renaisance. I highly reccomend that. She also loved Jacula when she was younger because of the Ghoolish cover. For some reason she was in a weird mood. To get her to stop crying, we had to tell her that someone is getting killed on tv.

Considering Genesis: The first song I thought of was "harold the barrel". Then I remembered the sad ending. Their are a lot of Genesis songs that have the story telling quality. I thinks it helps explaining the song ahead of time.

Also "the snow goose" if you have the actual story behind it. I remember seeing a made for tv movie of it. I can't recall if it was from English tv or not. Also I would think the cool vocals that Gentle Giant would do might remind them of "row, row, row your boat"

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:17

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

seriously I would not play Magma in front of my kids as they would run for cover and i would get the LOOK from my wife.

Seriously, I don't see why Magma couldn't be listened to by children. It is one of the best bands ever.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:15

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Absolutely. I'm a teenager and PG-era Genesis is some of my favorite music.

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I am starting to feel very old. i wonder if i am the oldest around here? oh well, look at me as a father figure for prog.

As a teen I can only remeber Sweet, Kiss, and Floyd. I had The Wall, that is definite and I rmember flicking thru the war of the Worlds booklet - vinyl was king and I was surrounded by vinyl, the album covers were all over the floor and I spent hours studying them. Now look at me, a hopeless proghead!

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:10

Ok well as you are only 10 years old according to your profile

I will talk to you in understandable english

early Genesis = very good

Post Gabriel Genesis up to Duke = satisfactory

Post Duke up to last album = very bad

seriously I would not play Magma in front of my kids as they would run for cover and i would get the LOOK from my wife.

But she likes Collins, so we have some mutual agreement here that our kids could listen to Genesis without argument so I am going for that.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:03

TGM: Orb wrote:

No. It's completely and utterly impossible for anyone who under the age of 20 to wield the intellectual and emotional maturity required to appreciate the otherworldly textures of The Fountain Of Salmacis or the morally infused rock of The Musical Box. If you fall into this unfortunate and loutish group, your time would be better spent familiarising yourself with We Can't Dance or, if you're feeling bold, perhaps even Invisible Touch. Duke shouldn't be approached before 15 and Wind & Wuthering is a bit thematically complicated for an underdeveloped psyche.

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Of course teenagers can enjoy early Genesis... next?

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Yes I am surprised at so many teens here. i shouldnt be but just cos i am an old dude doesnt mean we all are. Oh well. continue the conversation peolpe; its fascinating that this thread took off. i thought it was a personal thing but it seems we all have something to say on the topic. i didnt expect 4 pages on it but i am delighted it sparked some interest..

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 18:42

To answer your question: Yes, very much so. I'm an 18 year old male and I've been listening to Gabriel-era Genesis for a few years. They're definitely my favorite Symphonic Progressive band. Foxtrot and SEbtP are some of my favorite all-time albums. Supper's Ready became a favorite of mine after I listened to it enough to memorize the lyrics!

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:29

OK after reading some of the posts in this thread, teenagers should be forbidden. Tongue

Of course anytime you forbid a teenager from doing something, you know what's likely to happen. Wink

Edited by Slartibartfast - June 07 2010 at 17:33

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:19

Absolutely not, ignore all of the teenagers at PA who claim to enjoy such music and at other prog sites and discount people such as myself who listened to such music when they were teens and earlier and remember really liking it back then, but are really false memories, cause they don't count. It's completely delusional. The only music teenagers can really enjoy is Magma, Univers Zero and the like.

To put it in teen-speak, wurdah Genesis! ;)

Seriously, my daughter's been enjoying some music I like since she was very small, she's now six, as long as it's not horrifyingly bizarre. She likes Magma and William Sheller. My son's favourite (three) is a Jean-Paul Vannier track which he calls the "uh-uh' song and often requests it.

I just played my daughter and son some early Genesis, "Fireside Song" off Genesis first, and they didn't seem to like it.

Edited by Logan - June 07 2010 at 17:20

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:09

No. It's completely and utterly impossible for anyone who under the age of 20 to wield the intellectual and emotional maturity required to appreciate the otherworldly textures of The Fountain Of Salmacis or the morally infused rock of The Musical Box. If you fall into this unfortunate and loutish group, your time would be better spent familiarising yourself with We Can't Dance or, if you're feeling bold, perhaps even Invisible Touch. Duke shouldn't be approached before 15 and Wind & Wuthering is a bit thematically complicated for an underdeveloped psyche.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:01

Absolutely. I'm a teenager and PG-era Genesis is some of my favorite music.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:56

I've been listening to Prog since I was a little boy, though my first music "love" was alt. rock and hard rock, then slowly started to appreciate Prog more and more and with the arrival to this site... well... you know..

I started to 'really' appreciate Prog when I was 14, now I'm 16.

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Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:56

I'm 16 and i love genesis. I started when I was 15 so i'm kinda a newbie.

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