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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 17:21
Originally posted by MattGuitat MattGuitat wrote:

Script, Permanent Waves, and Moving Pictures are some of my favorite albums ever. So I guess the 80's were alright. Sadly, Rush went downhill, and Marillion has never matched Script. Though, I was born in the 90's, so I'd have no idea what it must have been like when all the prog bands just stopped.

it's interesting.  the early 80s (80-83) were very good and eclectic.  all the big prog bands made good albums.  production went to sh*t by 1985.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 15:46
Script, Permanent Waves, and Moving Pictures are some of my favorite albums ever. So I guess the 80's were alright. Sadly, Rush went downhill, and Marillion has never matched Script. Though, I was born in the 90's, so I'd have no idea what it must have been like when all the prog bands just stopped.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 15:45
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

So i was just wondering if anybody knew any band that made their best prog album in the 80s. (Except for Queensryche)
 
Cindy Lauper & The Stray Cats   Big smile     LOL
 
 
Did somebody say RUSH???   WTF???  Confused
 
1980's was a decade of transition in studio recording. Drum machines and sequencing, in the most redundant and simple mechanical patterns were basically mandated.  I am not sure it was technically possible to make a good album in that decade. 
 
U2 ruled the 1980's.  What else can be said?  The Musical Dark Ages for sure.
 
Then....
 
Hail 1990!.  Hail Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom!  The Renaissance of modern recording. Smile


Lots of RIO/Avant, and related (for instance, Zeuhl ones and some in Eclectic) bands made their best album in the 80s.  Univers Zero was great throughout the 80s, and I don't think UZ has released any poor albums even though I like some more than others, but for me UZ's best one was the 1977 debut.  Present, I think, which released its first album in 1980 but continues strong, released two really great ones in 1980 and 1985.  Included in Zeuhl, Shub-Niggurath's slf-titled and le Morts vont Vite from 1986 are terrific.

I revived this long-dead thread about a year ago mentioning Art Zoyd, which I think was terrific in the 80s, as well as in the late 70s, and I love later albums -- especially Haxan and Faust from the 90s.  Generation Sans Futur which was released in 1980 I have proclaimed before as my favourite album by any band in PA, and Art Zoyd is about my favourite band with lots of releases I love.  Les Espaces Inquiets from 1983 is another particular favourite of mine by Art Zoyd, but I love the band throughout that decade.

Hell, I even mostly love the much reviled Magma album from the 80s.

And the Samla/Zamla/Von Zamla conglomerate relased my favourite album of thos in 1980 with Zamla Mammaz Manna's Familjesprickor (though some don't consider 1980 to be the start of the 80s, but not me).  And then there's plenty of great Progressive Electronic albums from the 80s.

Incidentally, one of my favourite 80s bands is After Dinner from Japan.

I really can't think of a bad decade when it comes to music, and that goes for eras of prog, especially if one considers a wider umbrella, too.  For me the 80s is really strong since there are so many PA-category worthy albums from that decade that I frequently return to, and have for years.  I don't meant to sound pedantic and silly, t but I actually don't really think of the 80s as an era per se when it comes to prog even though one talks about 80s music.  It's an extension of the late 70s which is an extension of the mid-70s etc.  mnay of my favourite 80s albums came from bands and artists who were already active and making similar music in the late 70s.  One can debate if it's the worst decade overall, for me no, but it's not a really defined era for me.  Lots of fashions that prospered in the 80s, and fashions changed during that decade.... But I'll stop there before I ramble even more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 15:12
Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite was released in '89.

I think the 00's are the best era...but that's probably because I'm more into Progressive Metal, and there has been a TON of it in the 00's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 14:59
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

So i was just wondering if anybody knew any band that made their best prog album in the 80s. (Except for Queensryche)
 
Cindy Lauper & The Stray Cats   Big smile     LOL
 
 
Did somebody say RUSH???   WTF???  Confused
 
1980's was a decade of transition in studio recording. Drum machines and sequencing, in the most redundant and simple mechanical patterns were basically mandated.  I am not sure it was technically possible to make a good album in that decade. 
 
U2 ruled the 1980's.  What else can be said?  The Musical Dark Ages for sure.
 
Then....
 
Hail 1990!.  Hail Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom!  The Renaissance of modern recording. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 13:47
Just remembered another 80's goodie!!
HOWEVER
Amazing, high standard, eclectic prog outfit which not a lot of people are familiar with.
Worth looking for!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 13:41
More necrophilia.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 13:31
I think a lot of the well established prog groups did horribly in the 80s, but that isn't to say that all things progressive in this decade were ape snot. On the contrary the avant scene was sprawling and vibrant - and a lot of ex-communistic countries saw a huge surge of people finally getting their hands on records from the preceding decade - starting to make their own stuff - totally bereft of that plastic metallic sound most of the giants had now adopted.
The MAINSTREAM scene progwise was bad though. I will agree to that, but like all eras of music - once you scratch the surface, a whole new world emerges - especially if you are not afraid of venturing out beyond the confines of English speaking countries. It is pretty damn easy now with the internet and all too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2012 at 12:58
Yes, you nailed that one right.

And not to forget the stuff Art Zoyd made in the 80's. That probably has been mentioned in this thread already,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 02:22
I can add DUN - EROS ,crazy amazing music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2012 at 01:10
there where a couple of good albums in the 80s like 
operation mindcrime
gutter ballet
permanent waves and moving pictures
nude
and every iron maiden album

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 22:46
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

The 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s were pretty bad for prog. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 22:35
The 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s were pretty bad for prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 21:32
There wasn't so many classics in the 80s and a few of the big groups had gone commercial, however Marillion, King Crimson, and Jethro Tull were still putting out quality work. Prog is at its best since the 70s now, though, in my humble opinion, since its no longer such a bad word anymore.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 18:04
IMO Eloy's best came with their first 3 of the 80s - Colours, Planets, and Time to Turn
Camel's Stationary Traveler may not be their best but it is a high point
Outer Limits put out a few strong albums in the 80s
David Sylvian "Secrets of the Beehive"
Mike Oldfield's QE2 and 5 Miles Out
Amenophis s/t
Pererin "Teithgan" and "Haul Ar Yr Eira"
Anyone's Daughter's "In Blau" and "Neu Sterne" are both up there
Asia Minor "Between Flesh and Divine"
Osiris s/t and "Myths and Legends"
Asturcon s/t
Blue Oyster Cult "Fire of Unknown Origin"
Itoiz "Ezekiel"
Magdalena s/t (The Basque group)
Novalis "Augenblicke"
Sally Oldfield "Celebration"
Pablo El Enterrador s/t
Rebekka "Phoenix"
Rousseau "Retreat"
Alan Stivell "Terre Des Vivants"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 17:51

You should listen to what King Crimson and Rush had done in this era.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 17:04
Reading through this thread has been painful. Oh, the joys of internet arguments...

That said, I'll admit that my knowledge of 80s music is limited. In terms of prog, Rush, Univers Zero, and Eloy released excellent albums. Neo-prog isn't my favorite genre, but Marillion and IQ are worthy of mention as well.

I think it was probably the best decade for the advancement of metal, with thrash, black, death, and prog metal all starting here. I know a lot of people here aren't too keen on metal, but for those that are, the 80s had Queensryche, Watchtower, Fates Warning, Metallica, and Iron Maiden, among others.

There was also a lot of other interesting non-prog, including the Cure, Fields of the Nephilim, Talk Talk, the Smiths, Depeche Mode, and New Order. Plus you have Foreigner and Journey! So maybe it was the worst decade for prog - that's debatable. Either way, there was a lot of other interesting and influential music, and we shouldn't limit ourselves just to prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 17:34
80s are fine for me...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 12:34
^ apart from Captain Beefheart and Residents the bands I frequently listen to are post 70s
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:36
I currently listen more to 80s progressive rock than to 70s prog. 
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