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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: February 27 2007 at 03:04 |
 willy wrote:
there are very few drummers that I accept double bass from. As said above, Ginger Baker is one of them. Its very possibly to play a single bass at the same speed as double (JoJo Mayer anyone?), and given that, there are very few things you *need* a double bass for. If anything it just drowns out the rest of the music anyway.
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Why only use one bass drum when you have two legs? It's like playing guitar parts with downstrokes only when you could use alternate picking. A waste of energy! 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 03:02 |
"Yes, when it fits the music" Finally - a choice with which I find myself in perfect agreement! 
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Drew
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 00:40 |
Yes- when it fits the music- I think some bands have a hard time combining both double bass drumming AND musicallity.
Edited by Drew - February 27 2007 at 00:40
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willy
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 00:35 |
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there are very few drummers that I accept double bass from. As said above, Ginger Baker is one of them. Its very possibly to play a single bass at the same speed as double (JoJo Mayer anyone?), and given that, there are very few things you *need* a double bass for. If anything it just drowns out the rest of the music anyway.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 23:06 |
I love it. Of course it's not right for all music, and most music I listen to is devoid of double bass, but in the right situation, it can be just jawdropping. There are so many instances where I have just been floored by double bass.
A few case-in points, Amon Amarth's "Death In Fire" (after the intro, the double-bass just goes off like a machine-gun, beautiful), the intro of "Shadowfear" off of Vader's last album "Impressions In Blood", Martin Lopez also has some great double-bass lines with Opeth, and even the Professor himself Neil Peart throws in the occassional double bass for his massive drum solo on Rush in Rio.
Edited by lightbulb_son - February 26 2007 at 23:06
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:46 |
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When it fits its fine, but I think it only fits in very very few
situations. Examples I can think of off my head, Portnoy's double bass
in "The Glass Prison" terrible, in "When The Water Breaks" fantastic.
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:39 |
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A double-kick drum or pedal can be useful, but not when just playing 16th or 32nd notes. If you're using it to play creative parts that also happen to be fast, that's fine. But if you're just playing straight-up 16th notes and not doing anything artistic, that's not fine. That's just boring.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:30 |
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I have a lot of music with double bass,and put up with it.I just think the music would be better without it.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:28 |
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I would be ok with double bass drumming if it was artistically justified, which it is not in about 90% of the cases, in my opinion; it is usually just a case of too much testosterone. If Earnest Hemingway had been a drummer instead of a writer, he would have used double bass drums too.
Edited by BaldFriede - February 27 2007 at 03:54
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Chris H
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:06 |
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Not usually, but an exception is Ginger Baker. his occasional double-bass drumming is always masterliness!
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The T
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 22:05 |
A recent poll about power-metal gave me the idea for this poll. So what do you say?
I like double bass but in small doses when it fits the music, like The Dream, Shadow Gallery and most any good prog-metal band.... I don't like it when it's the only resource of the drummer like in most power-metal and most extreme metal.... Let me tell you: if you're a beginning drummer and want to impress an audience, play some double-bass and throw whatever you want on top of that with your hands, and everybody but the true connosieurs will be dazzled by your performance!  ... but those who know about the instrument will know better and will demand something new, something truly virtuose, not just a display of how strong your leg muscles are.... |
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