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Phil Miller from Hatfield and the North/ National Health
Vincent Mc Cusker of Fruupp
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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 Early Terje Rypdal is my ideal guitarist and while he is well respected musician not all that appreciated on PA.

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I would think that two very special guitarists deserve a mention here, for their work, although for the most part I am not sure that most people can handle it ... these are strong, weird and further out in left field kind of position.

John Weinzierl - AD2 ... no one could use effects and placed an amazing sound in such incredible spots within the music. And he could also improvise from here to Pluto and back. Witness YETI, the main piece in the album, which is stated to be an improvisation!

Ax Genrich - Guru Guru first several albums. I picked up his 3 solo albums, because I thought this guy would be interesting and off his rock'er! Yep .. he is that and then some. But for sheer insanity and sound and noise, no one could come close to what he did on the first Guru Guru albums, and how 2 of those pieces are still played today left and right.

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How about Tony Hill?




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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

That's the problem with a term such as "under-appreciated"; people interpret it differently and it is subjective in a weird way because it is not only about assessing one's own opinion but also about the opinions of other people. 

That is exactly why I phrased the question as I did!!  

Justin Hayward was indeed voted into the RRHOF, but I still find little written about his technique, style etc. in professional guitar periodicals.  Hackett, Fripp, Howe and others seem to have sucked the air out of the room regarding prog guitar (my own opinion). 

Some have mentioned the late Peter Banks...I consider him under-appreciated, even though he was very prominent in the formation of Yes.  Later on, his style evolved from his angular jazz-rock phrasing to a style more like Steve Vai (his solo CD "Self Contained" showcases this style).  Hear Peter shred!! 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fischman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2018 at 20:41
Probably not popular in these parts, but I think Rich Williams of Kansas deserves far more praise.

Edited by Fischman - October 23 2018 at 14:27
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

for me... the god of the Fender Strat...  Hughie Thomasson.

even if you don't recognize the name.. you would recognize his signature greatness.  The long standing #1 Mick ranked Blow thy Speaker song ever...







Not prog... but I agree completely. I never tire of listening to Hughie.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fischman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2018 at 20:30
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Let me start...  Prog has many under-appreciated musicians, and being a guitarist myself, I tend to gravitate to that instrument.

One of my favorite under-appreciated prog guitarists is the Moody Blues' Justin Hayward!  He wrung an incredible sound from his Gibson ES-335, and is not often mentioned in the polls dominated by Howe, Hackett, Fripp etc.! 

Here's a nice one of his!  Who is your suggested under-appreciated guitarist?  (please, just name one, not a whole list!)






Nice choice. On a related note, he's also underappreciated as both songwriter and vocalist. He really is the whole musical package.
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Gary Green of 'Giant. He's no virtuoso, but he's very clean.


Good call. How do you define virtuoso though? I'd say he's as good as Martin Barre, David Gilmour or most other prog guitarists. 
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Gary Green of 'Giant. He's no virtuoso, but he's very clean.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2018 at 18:31
Originally posted by flyingveepixie flyingveepixie wrote:

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Justin Hayward has recently been inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame.


So what.
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Tony MacAlpine
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2018 at 18:24
Hm Ive never been into the "guitar-virtuoso" and generally considered the guitarist to be overappreciated. I do love good riffing and a genuine, egoless and attentive bandplayer. When it comes to soloing I seem to prefer the ones creating soundscapes and modes over the frenetic noodlers and the supermelodic ones. Early Terje Rypdal is my ideal guitarist and while he is well respected musician not all that appreciated on PA.
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for me... the god of the Fender Strat...  Hughie Thomasson.

even if you don't recognize the name.. you would recognize his signature greatness.  The long standing #1 Mick ranked Blow thy Speaker song ever...




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2018 at 15:10
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Two already mentioned....Mike Holmes and Dave Gregory.
Not sure if he's underrated but Donald 'buck dharma' Roeser from BOC....at least I don't see him on many lists.



ThisClap. I wanted to mention him, but thought he was relatively well-known. On the other hand, he does not get as much love as other guitarists, though he's one of the very best.

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I think it goes without saying that Edgar is likewise underappreciated in the realm of guitar.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I'll go with Jean and say Roman Bunka of Embryo. Such a great guitar player, and he plays the oud too! And his first solo album "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto" is one of the very best albums of the 80s and among my personal favorites. And no-one but Jean and me ever mentions him, which is an absolute shame. You guys should most definitely listen to the examples Jean gave in her post.

Someone named Eddy Marron which is not a bad call either.

Speaking of German guitarists(at least I assume the guy from Embryo is German)I would like to nominate Manuel Gottsching from Ash Ra Tempel and also a solo artist. I think he's almost the textbook definition of an under rated guitarist.

Roman Bunka is the son of a German diplomat and grew up in Beirut. He also took part in Embryo's famous trip to Pakistan and India. This is why there are a lot of Arabic and Indian influences in his playing, which makes him in my opinion one of the most interesting guitarists out there. He definitely deserves more recognition.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Speaking of German guitarists(at least I assume the guy from Embryo is German)I would like to nominate Manuel Gottsching from Ash Ra Tempel and also a solo artist. I think he's almost the textbook definition of an under rated guitarist.
 

Manuel's awesome! His lines on Ashra's Correlations just sizzle. 
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My favorite underappreciated guitarist isn't even a prog guy. He's Pat McManus of Mama's Boys fame! The man's talent is immense. He's literally Gary Moore II!

The McManus brothers (Pat, John, Tommy) were born into a family of musicians. At a young age, he was a champion fiddler in his neck o' the woods in Ireland. Pat and his sister went and saw Horslips live and were blown away by their inventive fusion of Celtic and rock styles. 

Inspired like a fire tornado to move into the realm of electricity, Pat shifted to guitar and "appointed" his John as bassist-vocalist and Tommy (R.I.P.) as drummer. They first called themselves Pulse and then changed the name of their band to Mama's Boys. They enjoyed some modest success in the U.K. but never really clicked in the States. They did, and do, have a loyal following. Their first several albums as a trio are some of the finest hard rock I've ever heard.

Mama's Boys opened for Thin Lizzy on occasion. I'm shocked Phil didn't try to lure Pat to Thin Lizzy. A quartet featuring both Pat and John Sykes on lead guitar probably would've been too much. They'd have left every venue in a shambles! But I'm glad the McManus clan remained intact up to a point, because those early Mama's Boys records are dynamite.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I'll go with Jean and say Roman Bunka of Embryo. Such a great guitar player, and he plays the oud too! And his first solo album "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto" is one of the very best albums of the 80s and among my personal favorites. And no-one but Jean and me ever mentions him, which is an absolute shame. You guys should most definitely listen to the examples Jean gave in her post.

Someone named Eddy Marron which is not a bad call either.

Speaking of German guitarists(at least I assume the guy from Embryo is German)I would like to nominate Manuel Gottsching from Ash Ra Tempel and also a solo artist. I think he's almost the textbook definition of an under rated guitarist.
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Buck's not an unknown, but he's definitely UNDERappreciated! IMO, he's a lead guitarist who can hang with just about anybody, but unlike most (and like his contemporary Ronnie Montrose), he's a master of tone and melodicism. And these new young rock guitarists — sheesh, they can't play a solo if you spray WD-40 all over their fretboards.


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