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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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I'm an employee myself, but I have learnt to be more than wary about those cliches.
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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I won't say that there a lot of prog fans which are from the right wing.
I would rather say that prog fans happening to have right wing opinions are more likely to brag about it. For my part, being French (1789, 1848, 1871, 1936, 1981, you see, the kind of things...) and having read or heard about some this Eurocommunist thing from the Italian Communist Party, I can say I have voted for the French Communist Party on several occasions without remorse. That said, it doesn't mean that I have read the whole works of Marx and Engels (Rosa Luxembourg spotted some mathematical errors in Marx theories) and, above all, I would never sympathise with the politics of the USSR (not even Trostky!), the former Warsaw Pact regimes, China, North Korea or Kampuchea. And now, let's all celebrate Tito for allowing the Yugoslavian kids to play Rock'n'Roll music even if he send political opponents on the Goli Otok island. ![]() |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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If that's the way things work in Belgium we have a quite different dynamic going in the US...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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The first thing we need to do is stopping this b*t of "right = liberal = employers" and "left = socialist = employees".
This cliche thinking is causing much harm to modern society, it may have have some sense in the early 20th century but we should be past it by now.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Then again, teabaggers are moron tools of the Koch Roaches... ![]() |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Well, when it comes to prog and life really I almost always hate everything Snow Dog says ![]() Love Beach wins all anyway Edited by JJLehto - December 11 2012 at 19:58 |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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And you call yourself a prog fan. Suffice it to say that the lyrics are terrible, despite what Snow Dog and others would have you believe. |
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Many Americans claim that anyone who is not a Tea Party Republican is by definition a Communist.
Then again, these folks claim that Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism and Totalitarianism are all synonymous. |
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Viajero Astral ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3118 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6154&KW=political+compass
Old thread (maybe you remember it?), but this can give you an idea of how red this place was long time ago. P.S. Im more red now. Many things has happened to me in the last 6 years. |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Also I have been told they^ are card carrying members of the Communist Party
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Dude, I can happily say I have no idea what that is
![]() Can't be better than this! Truly the lyricists of our generation Though I do suspect it's a gag... |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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What do you think of the lyrics to Golf Girl? |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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LOLZ And hey, good lyrics are always a + to any song, but the music is what counts. Also regardless of genre, lyrics always suck ![]() |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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But JJ, the words are the most important part!
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Oh yeah don't even start me on the vocals vs lyrics debate. I rage deeply when I hear "yeah music is just a vehicle to carry the words" ![]() |
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SaltyJon ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 08 2008 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 28772 |
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Yep. I don't even notice what words they're saying some of the time. |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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I have the ability to not ruin every thread with politics so that's was that.
I just don't know any flat out communist prog bands, not that I care. Long as I like the music I don't care what they believe really. |
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16892 |
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Marxists sometimes sees politics in terms of Marx's theory of historical materialism, so it's natural that libertarians would be called right-wing.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Been reading the libertarian thread? Not to be mean but you are very mistaken. Been at this place for 6 years, and have always been involved in political debates. PA is largely left wing. In fact I'd say near unanimous. Few if any communists but to say a large amount of libertarians? More like 15 man ![]() Also libertarian =/= right wing (who's the one eating propaganda?) but that's for a different thread! Edited by JJLehto - December 11 2012 at 17:47 |
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The Wizard ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
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Sounds like an interesting read. Workers in the Eastern Bloc who resisted against Stalinism are heroes in my opinion.
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