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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 13:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 13:22
it took quite long to get used to captain beefheart's music and his strange vovals....but now i love most of his records. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 10:27

Here's a real hard one:

Power Of Omens - Rooms Of Anguish.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 10:13
Originally posted by Lateralus_64 Lateralus_64 wrote:

The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute 

I still haven't been able to really enjoy it... I got better last time though, gotta listen some more to that one.

Another suggestion: Spiral Architect - A Sceptic's Universe. Fusion-metal, intense and complex stuff. I was NOT used to this kind of music and I seriously got a headache the first time I heard it, and it took ALL my attention, it was simply not possible to concentrate on something else when I listened to it. Now it's one of my all-time favorite records, but I'm able to concentrate on other stuff as well now.. but still it's usually draining some of my mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 10:04
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Captian Beefheart- Trout Mask Repilca

O boy 

not a very accesible album, but i personaly thought it was brillant.

O i like it...but it just a bizarre mindf*uck of an album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 09:53

In addition to most Krautrock and some experimental stuff (Henry Cow et al), I have always found it hard to listen to most of VDGG.  It's not that I don't like it or respect it - I do, immensely - but I find it hard to take Peter Hamill's "on-the-sleeve" angst-ridden delivery (which I also very much admire and respect).

I also could not "get" Ozric Tentacles.

Peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 09:25

The Residents - Meet The Residents (I have no problem with the rest of their output)

(And I will second Coltrane's Ascension)

Vive Gong!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 08:21

Tangerine Dream: Zeit (Largo in 4 Movements)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 08:08

Originally posted by justin justin wrote:

for some reason i am having trouble getting into spocks beard - beware of darkness...

"But its not overly bizarre or complex" is it! And the same goes for Dark Side Of The Moon Richard Aitch!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 08:06

Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Here is my review of one of my hardest listening experiences.


FAUST The Faust Tapes
Review (Permanent link) by Sead S. Fetahagic @ 10:25:37 AM EST, 6/28/2005
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2 stars — "The Faust Tapes" is even more difficult to rate because it was and still is for me one of the hardest listening experiences. Probably THE hardest. The original vinyl record sleeve was a ordinary plastic bag depicting a saturated green photo of a ugly idiot-looking male face shouting (or yawning) with red eyes, perfectly matching the craziness of the sound contained therein. This is basically a pastiche of sounds and electronic noise, with one exceptional moment - "Flashback Caruso", which is quite listenable. The rest is a pure headache. As mad as it may sound, this album of nonsense has a sort of appeal and attraction, but you must be a bit deranged (like myself, ha, ha) to like it. Minimum 10 years of prog listening experience is prerequisite! Approach with extreme caution! Although I give only 2 stars, it is basically a category of its own and very much - unrateable (if this is a correct English).

Loved that album when I first heared it! Have to get it again!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 07:16
Originally posted by Poxx Poxx wrote:

Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music.



Naah, this is IMPOSSIBLE to listen...!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 07:16
Weather Report - I sing the body electric
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 06:47
If you have the fortune to visit the Freeman brothers Ultima Thule specialist record shop in Leicester (literally next to the railway station in Conduit Street), you'll discover all the CDs in stock are represented in the display rack as their insert Scotch-taped in a clear plastic envelope. Alan Freeman, almosts always includes a terse one or two liner on a card about what the band sounds like  (but you have to know the sound of most leading bands in most of progs sub-categories, to make sense of make a more obscure band sounds like, and what the album is about - and then many of these descriptions have lead to vigourous debate.

The Repertoise issue of Spooky Tooth/Pierre Henry's Ceremony  was tagged with "probably the most difficult prog album to listen to". However, it is clear from the range of music heard loudly from the shop excellent hifi system, that 'difficult music' is a matter of taste/opinion. 'Challenging' is a slightly better term - one I would use most recently with God Speed You Black Emperor and amongst my earliest  albums, Tony Williams' Lifetime's Turn It Over. (BTW the use of the word 'hate' in context of bands or their albums, has me turning off and ignoring  those threads).

I can understand Machine's Third  being a challenge, but I supposed I had the advantage of hearing Machine on Peel's radio show in the 60's , discovering the Probe Records imports, and getting into Machine with their first and Volume 2 albums. So I was fairly well prepared for the step change from Volume 2 to Third - a couple of listens had me bedded in and then hooked.

TP I suggest you take a decco at  Machine's Backwards
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000065UKG/qid=11 20300794/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_2_11/026-0346423-6095648
which finishes with the demo Robert Wyatt put together in NYC of Moon In June - it is beautiful piece of remastering and disc clean up from an acetate "found in a cupboard". Wyatt for at least the first 9 minutes plays everything, and Hopper and Ratledge are only found at the end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 06:12
As someone who has no trouble at all listening to extreme Krautrock, RIO, Mr Bungle etc it may be surprising to find that I just can't stomach Captain Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica". I've tried and tried to enjoy that album (I love several of his others, including parts of "Lick My Decals..." but for some reason TMR just sounds awful to me. Also, I find absolutely nothing to enjoy in most of Soft Machine's "Third" other than the wonderful Robert Wyatt's "Moon In June".

Generally dissonance, complexity and the downright bizarre don't fase me, but there are exceptions to every rule, of course
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 05:52
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Dark Side Of The Moon,I generally fall asleep half way through.

i seriously hope you are kidding.

Nope,although I like some of the songs, 'Time' in particular ,the overall effect of the album is soporific to me.

BTW Love the avatar..The Office is one of my all time favourite programmes

thanks, well to each his own.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 05:42
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Dark Side Of The Moon,I generally fall asleep half way through.

i seriously hope you are kidding.

Nope,although I like some of the songs, 'Time' in particular ,the overall effect of the album is soporific to me.

BTW Love the avatar..The Office is one of my all time favourite programmes

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 05:37

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Dark Side Of The Moon,I generally fall asleep half way through.

i seriously hope you are kidding.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 05:33
Dark Side Of The Moon,I generally fall asleep half way through.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 05:29

OOF. Yah, many of mine have been mentioned.

  • Any electronic music where the music just doesn't go anywhere or takes 20 minutes to change patterns...
  • Kroutrock like Can - Not totally bad (and they have a few good songs) but I usually can't listen to it for more than 5 or 10 minutes before I need something with a normal melody to it.
  • Radiohead - Bleh. Just noise to me from OK Computer on...
  • Mr. Bungle - YIKES!!
Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2005 at 04:30

Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music.

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