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Certif1ed
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:18 |
They're most popular because they got most votes.
I hate to see any Yes or Dream Theater rated as highly or higher than Marillion, Pink Floyd, Tull, KC, Rush or Genesis when it quite blatantly isn't true...
It's like the pop charts - at the top is the most pop.
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niki
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:16 |
No question about it: they are HUGE bands but the problem is that everyone knows them!
I'm curious and hungry by nature so I'd be very disappointed if the entire prog-rock genre is more or less reprensented by 8-12 names.
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:12 |
bluetailfly wrote:
It makes complete sense to me that that would be the case. Those are the prog rock heavyweights. Like it or not, they have defined the genre. I would expect most of Yes's albums to be there, same with Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson.
What is a crime, imo, is that ELPs aren't ranked higher: Certainly, BSS, Trilogy, the first album and Tarkus should be higher than they are, but their fan base is smaller. But in terms of influence, they deserve to be higher. They are absolutely fantastic albums that were hugely influential when they were released. I think we should have an "ELP Day" on the site, and each member must play one of the first 8 LP albums in their entirety and then rate it.
Note: I'm not kidding about ELP Day.
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That they have defined the genre does not mean that all their albums should be up there. I am a huge fan of VdGG but would only put 2 albums of them in the top 100, "Pawn Hearts" and "Godbluff". Other bands made excellent albums too that sometimes surpass certain albums of the founders.
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memowakeman
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:11 |
ITS A QUESTION OF TASTE...
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Miaugion
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:08 |
niki wrote:
Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Marillion, Dream Theater, Rush |
Great collection. ![](smileys/smiley32.gif) And no, I don't agree. This is simply the cream that most people love. Most of the other stuff is derivative and immature in comparison to the greats and can be found on the lower ranks where it belongs. 90 % of all the prog albums I've ever listened to were just average (and who needs "average"?) or forgettable, especially lyrically.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:06 |
It makes complete sense to me that that would be the case. Those are the prog rock heavyweights. Like it or not, they have defined the genre. I would expect most of Yes's albums to be there, same with Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson.
What is a crime, imo, is that ELPs aren't ranked higher: Certainly, BSS, Trilogy, the first album and Tarkus should be higher than they are, but their fan base is smaller. But in terms of influence, they deserve to be higher. They are absolutely fantastic albums that were hugely influential when they were released. I think we should have an "ELP Day" on the site, and each member must play one of the first 8 LP albums in their entirety and then rate it.
Note: I'm not kidding about ELP Day.
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niki
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:05 |
PS: You add Camel, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf and ELP + the 8 bands mentionned before and you have about 80 albums by only those 12 bands in the top 100!!!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:03 |
Zappa's not there ![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
That one i don't get. There are some other great bands out there, but, unfortunatly, aren't well known. So i can see if they are not present. It's a shame how many great bands are underappreciated. But, i guess thats why were here. To learn about all of that out there.
Welcome, btw.
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memowakeman
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 17:53 |
SIMPLI:
I AGREE WITH YOU!!
THERES A LOT OF EXCELLENT MUSIC, AND EXCELLENT ALBUMS WHO DESERVES TO BE IN THE TOP 100... NOT ONLY THOSE BANDS THAT YOU HAVE MENTION...
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niki
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 17:51 |
Hello everyone, I 'm new here.
Well, something bothers me in the top 100 albums (our choices) at progarchives:
Have you noticed that only 8 bands (Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Marillion, Dream Theater, Rush) represent almost 60 albums in the top 100!
Don't get me wrong, I love them all but isn't that a little bit too much? What about the others?
This musical genre is supposed to be very rich, with a lot of different talents, bands. Instead of that, I got the feeling that prog rock is dominated by only a few (still great) names.
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