Can teenagers Enjoy early Genesis? |
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yanch
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 03 2010 Location: Lowell, MA Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 07:50 | |
I must admit that it is pretty cool when your kids stop and listen to what I'm listening to. The best has been going to concerts together of bands we all like. My sons, wife and I have seen Rush and Tool together.
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Raredrumd
Forum Newbie Joined: June 02 2010 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 06:53 | |
Wow, wouldn't it be nice to enlighten kids to prog? It would. Boy, I can't wait. Haha.
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yanch
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 03 2010 Location: Lowell, MA Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 06:37 | |
I think a small handful of teens these days may be able to enjoy early Genesis, but not lots. My 2 sons-21 and 17-have heard lots of Genesis, and prog in general, for years, but you'd never get them to ask me to play any Genesis. As mentioned, they prefer heavier music. They prefer Rush, Tool, Liquid Tension Experiment, Dream Theater, etc. Interestingly enough, they do like some Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here and Animals.
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dantd95
Forum Newbie Joined: January 21 2010 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:39 | |
I'm 15, and i love Genesis and Magma.
though i still have that good old sense of fanboyism. |
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:26 | |
Also, with a teenager today, I would stay well away from Genesis as a gateway band- young people can find them square. Teenagers probably want something hookier and heavier to begin with. Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater, well not my favourite bands, do work as a foot in the door. Going straight for Genesis and Yes, who can sound a bit twee and fey to modern ears, is probably not the wisest move.
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:24 | |
As a father myself, I find the biggest problem with this kind of relationship is that the father pushes his "obviously superior" progressive music onto his children, but does not reciprocate by sitting down to take their music seriously, which can, even if the child does not express it, paint him as an out-of-touch snob who is to be endured until he goes back to his room. I'm not saying this is ACR's situation, I wouldn't know, but it seems to be quite common. |
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:00 | |
^Same here - I also have a massive soft spot for Invisible Touch... Easily a 4 star album for me
Trick was on of those albums that got me into prog; one of the first 2 or 3 prog albums which blew me away and still do. Really amazing stuff! |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:58 | |
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:53 | |
I've loved early Genesis (especially A Trick Of The Tail and Foxtrot) since before I was 10, and still do as a 16 year old. So definitely yes!
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:22 | |
Hmmmm heres a good site too
Teenagers there are some that are good all of the time but they are few and far between. If you are or were blessed with even one of those always good ones, count yourself as being one of the very fortunate of peoples of this world. The rest of them well let me just say that they have the other kind. Let’s face it the trouble with most teenagers’ lies in their parent’s genes or DNA or whatever that thing is that is passed down to them from their parents and grandparents. You know what I mean…that badness or that goofiness or that seriousness or that meanness or that shyness or that cantankerous thing that your father had on his side of the family or your mother had on your mother’s side of the family. What can we do about those things that we would like to change if we could? Well, in my humble opinion, there exists little or nothing that we can do to change that which is built into them. About all that we can attempt to do is to make ourselves admit to ourselves that our son or our daughter has those traits that we never cared for in him or in her and we must not try to make them different from what they are but we must learn how to work with what he or she has and build as decent a person as we can from what we have got to work with. That means that we must learn that our children’s flow is going to often go against our own flow and at those times we must let that flow of theirs flow around us or over us and then once that is done we must let our flow surround them and comfort them and encourage them in helping them to use their flow to mesh with this worlds’ flow more naturally so that we all can flow and mix our flows together to make life good and sound for all of us everywhere. What exactly does all of this flowing business need to do with a sometimes disrespectful or a belligerent teenager or a son or daughter that lies or cheats or is just plain lazy or bullies? Well, I think that once we accept the facts about our sons and our daughters their innate shortcomings for what they are and from whence they came and admit to ourselves that our son and our daughter are not going to change those attitudes or those unwanted and often times unwarranted outburst of temper or that laziness that was born in them the sooner we all will see that those episodes that we dislike or even hate about our children will subsist and decline to the point of near extinction. However, if we are unable to accept these unlikable or detestable (to us) traits that are in our own children, well, I am thinking that we are only going to set our family’s lives up for trouble and more trouble until that day comes when our children have children and teens of their very own at which time we as parents get our long awaited parental revenge. But, do you want to wait ten or fifteen years or more for that revenge or would you rather forgo the revenge part and go after the more immediate relief effort that the flowing of all rivers experience on their winding and bumpy way to the everlasting expanse and wonderment of this world’s deep oceans? Now that is deep.............. comments? agree? disagree? whats it got to do with OP? Keep the comments coming as this is more enlightening than the polls at present. |
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Moogtron III
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:18 | |
I already enjoyed Genesis when I was a little kid. One of my older brothers was in his teens and he was really into Genesis, Yes, Kayak etc. and I remember that I thought he had quite some fascinating music.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:12 | |
Definitions of teenager on the Web:
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:11 | |
I enjoyed watching Genesis on DVD with family though. I think its the first time they accepted my music.... Genesis seem to appeal to a wide audience. All ages are in the audience at concerts and all types of people - Genesis seem to appeal to a target audience wider than the average prog.
Now if i played Dream Theater or Opeth we may have a different situation of course...
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XunknownX
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2008 Status: Offline Points: 158 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:08 | |
"teenagers" is not a homogeneous group, so the question can't be answered.
Edited by XunknownX - June 08 2010 at 04:11 |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:02 | |
Today We watched the "Genesis Video Show" DVD and when we got to 'I Cant dance' I was cringing but she laughed at the silly antics of the trio walking like wirdos. My little 4 yr old son said
"are we watching The Goodies?" And that summed it up for me. a lot of Genesis clips were funny or silly even with Benny Hill in one and Spitting Image puppets in another. But it was great to listen to Genesis instead of Hannah Montana for a while. we saw bits of the "Live In Rome" DVD but she lost interest very quickly, though thought it was funny te crowd singing and Collins taking photos of the crowd. Whereas the Video Clips sparked her interest with hundreds of questions such as , who is that guy, does he play drums too, why does he look like a priest, whos the keybrd player, whats this song about (No Son of Mine, Jesus He Knows me, Ripples), Why do they have symbols all over their DVD cover etc etc etc etc...... It was a fun time. |
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dedokras
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 04 2006 Location: Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 635 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 03:50 | |
absolutely, I started listening to early Genesis 15 years ago at 15, so...yes
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trackstoni
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 23 2008 Location: Lebanon Status: Offline Points: 934 |
Posted: June 08 2010 at 03:43 | |
Doubt it , but , maybe 20 years & over ,and specially the early ones of Genesis !!!!!!
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Horny Watermelon
Forum Newbie Joined: September 17 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: June 07 2010 at 23:00 | |
i think its more the question of, "can teenagers enjoy prog"? When i
first got into prog at 15, my friend and i were the only people in our
year who listened to it. Even though mostly everyone i talked to about
prog admitted to never listening to it, they still made jokes and gave
us lots of crap about it. To each their own i suppose. I just hate when people say that music 'artists' such as lady gaga and all those electronic rap songs are 'real music'. its quite sad.
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kawkaw123
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 11 2009 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 445 |
Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:59 | |
Yes, because i do and im 20. but I still prefer newer prog bands. I don't get the fascination with the older bands here maybe its because the majority of the people here are old. I mean sure Genesis and Yes both have there classics but they aren't any better than the new bands out there.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:22 | |
wow 5 pages already, incredible-- though Yes, Tull and Crimson were popular with my friends in high school, almost no one knew of Genesis (at least not the original one). Strange because prog was rather well respected in California in the 80s, even albums as Discipline and 90215 were popular, but not early Genesis, almost like they didn't exist. Weird. Maybe all the pop stuff had soured their reputation, or maybe with Gabriel having such a strong solo career, they'd become moot.
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