Least Proggy Metallica Album

Well, this should be moved to the prog-related section, not here...

The same question comes up that I've asked so many others at different times. What is any more embarrassing, stupid, cliche'...whatever negative I ever hear, about SA lyrics than any of their other lyrics? Master of Puppets has some of the most banal and obnoxious lyrics I've ever heard, and its considered their masterpiece.

And enough with the rudeness toward those of us who don't agree with you SA mobbers.  There are plenty of us "fairly intelligent persons" who have a different view of the album than you.  It does nothing to solidify your position. 

If any of them are proggy at all, which they might not be; it'd be St. Anger.

On St. Anger they did what they wanted, pushed what was expected of them, changed their whole sound, and took a diffrent approach to even creating an album.... what's more prog than that.

Just because a bunch of terrible journalists and easily convinced teenagers decided the album was rubbish because of the snare sound and lack of solos, doesn't mean the album should ever have been written off by intelligent people.

I realise the question was more 'what albums do Dream Theater et al want to sound like,' and not 'which album is most progressive,' but thats just how I feel.

HUGELY underrated St Anger.

The least influential to prog metal bands- album would probably be Reload or indeed St. Anger, or Death Magnetic because its too new.

Tapfret wrote: aapatsos wrote: Tapfret wrote: What exactly is the problem with St. Anger?  Quite frankly its the first interesting album since Master of Puppets.    Thanks, you made me laugh......That was your intention, right? Seriously, St. Anger is the least proggish in any way you can look at it... Music is just a bunch of people manipulating their instruments, and lyrics are at least funny... First of all, there is 0 "proggish" about any their music, ever. Their history, their philosophy is 100% anti-prog.  That wasn't my question.  And your second statement can pretty much be said about any band.  How many times do you think that has been said about King Crimson, Dream Theater, Yes, etc.? After the 15 years of utter rubbish they put out, that is really your opinion? When they decide to actually make changes to their sound and quit droning out the same old radio oriented tripe.  Personally, I don't listen to it often either, there is way to much true progressive music, jazz and orchestral music out there that I want to hear. But I sure do have a hell of alot more respect for their work on SA for at least some effort at originality over the black album or Load or Freeload.  And when I do decide to listen to them, it will probably be SA.  Don't worry, they're back to what the same old crap. And I'm sure they are busy working on the Unforgiven IV. And the fact that SA gets more votes than Kill 'em All tells me that many people have not heard one or both of those albums.

I agree that Metallica are not proggish, but you cannot deny that AJFA is a technical record (whatever that means for you).
I also agree with the 15 years of rubbish music, but St. Anger is just beyond expectations... so much crap in one record I have never heard in my life... honestly...
Kill 'em All might be their least proggish release, but I said St. Anger as this 'thing' is not even music to my ears.
good point about Unforgiven IV, I clearly oppose to that idea. But At least DM is some sort of decent record, with strucutre, interesting riffs, some melodies... it represents sth, even if it's a copy of old material for you.

I am not defending them at all, this record does not wipe out their recent past, but at least it's music, not just noise...

Definitely Kill em All.  Whilst it's not at all proggy, I love that album.  Real thrash, brilliant album.

aapatsos wrote: Tapfret wrote: What exactly is the problem with St. Anger?  Quite frankly its the first interesting album since Master of Puppets.    Thanks, you made me laugh......That was your intention, right? Seriously, St. Anger is the least proggish in any way you can look at it... Music is just a bunch of people manipulating their instruments, and lyrics are at least funny...

First of all, there is 0 "proggish" about any their music, ever. Their history, their philosophy is 100% anti-prog.  That wasn't my question.  And your second statement can pretty much be said about any band.  How many times do you think that has been said about King Crimson, Dream Theater, Yes, etc.?

After the 15 years of utter rubbish they put out, that is really your opinion? When they decide to actually make changes to their sound and quit droning out the same old radio oriented tripe.  Personally, I don't listen to it often either, there is way to much true progressive music, jazz and orchestral music out there that I want to hear. But I sure do have a hell of alot more respect for their work on SA for at least some effort at originality over the black album or Load or Freeload.  And when I do decide to listen to them, it will probably be SA. 

Don't worry, they're back to what the same old crap. And I'm sure they are busy working on the Unforgiven IV.

And the fact that SA gets more votes than Kill 'em All tells me that many people have not heard one or both of those albums.

HughesJB4 wrote: Stool Man wrote: The only album I've heard is Master of Puppets, but after I saw them live last month somebody (a huge Metallica fan, not a prog fan) recommended St Anger as the place to start for listening to the rest.   St Anger would be pretty cool if you were deaf.. actually, that is too much of a compliment of St Anger. I would honestly rather listen to 90125 than St Anger.   I would rather listen to a man puking than listen to St Anger.... at least it would be amusing for about 2 minutes

I actually might agree with you there.

The incorrect answers are the first 4 and Death Magnetic.

Stool Man wrote: The only album I've heard is Master of Puppets, but after I saw them live last month somebody (a huge Metallica fan, not a prog fan) recommended St Anger as the place to start for listening to the rest.

The only album I've heard is Master of Puppets, but after I saw them live last month somebody (a huge Metallica fan, not a prog fan) recommended St Anger as the place to start for listening to the rest.