No Offense, But Why...

micky wrote: jammun wrote: Yep, quick search sez these will be hard if not impossible to find.  Damn.  Ya never know though, looks like they were originally released on Atlantic which gives some hope, since it's not a totally obscure label. exactly...  for curiosities sake... it is an interesting listen.  But the review is dead on. Now the fun is proposing them to Symphonic Would give anything I have.. but Raffaella's love of course .... .. to see Ivan's expression as he listened to it hahhahahhaha.

you do have to wonder how they went down ... on THAT bill...

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-75.html

Yep, quick search sez these will be hard if not impossible to find.  Damn.  Ya never know though, looks like they were originally released on Atlantic which gives some hope, since it's not a totally obscure label.

micky wrote: jammun wrote: Hey I am not laughing...did you miss the part where I actually own a pedal-steel. So who are some of the prog-country bands? in the culmination of what has been a two year search.... and a running joke between Ivan and me.  I have found one... I present to you... Wally.  You have to hear it to believe it from Planet Mellotron Wally  (UK) Wally  (1974,  40.10)  ***/T The Martyr I Just Wanna Be a Cowboy What to Do Sunday Walking Lady To the Urban Man Your Own Way Valley Gardens  (1975,  41.15)  ***/T Valley Gardens Nez Percé The Mood I'm in The Reason Why   Nolan   The Charge   Disillusion Current availability: Both titles: Atlantic (Japan) Wally suffered the rather dubious distinction of being championed by The Old Grey Whistle Test's 'Whispering' Bob Harris, these days known best for being a country music DJ (he sneered at the New York Dolls when they appeared on the Whistle Test, so he was hardly going to go for anything too energetic, was he?). In fact, Wally was produced by Harris and Rick Wakeman, which doesn't exactly inspire much confidence. While the band fitted (very) broadly into the 'progressive' category, there was more than a hint of country/rock about them, especially with Paul Middleton's steel guitar; West Coast Prog, anyone? Actually, the album isn't that bad, just rather forgettable, with a regrettable lack of energy. Paul Gerrett plays Mellotron on one track only, the twelve-minute To The Urban Man, with a string part drifting in and out of the song. Pete Sage's electric violin confuses the issue in places, but it's definitely only the one 'Tron track. Second (and last) album, Valley Gardens, carries on in a similar vein to their debut, including a side-long track, The Reason Why, which was probably the best thing the band recorded. Gerrett was replaced by Nick Glennie-Smith, who gets marginally more 'Tron in this time round, with strings on the title track and the first part of The Reason Why, Nolan, but it's all pretty minor, to be honest. So; so-so albums, minimal 'Tron. Not that exciting, really, although I've heard an awful lot worse. I believe that's called 'damning with faint praise'. Oh well.

jammun wrote: Hey I am not laughing...did you miss the part where I actually own a pedal-steel. So who are some of the prog-country bands?

in the culmination of what has been a two year search.... and a running joke between Ivan and me.

 I have found one...

I present to you... Wally.  You have to hear it to believe it

from Planet Mellotron

Wally  (UK)

	Wally  (1974,  40.10)  ***/T The Martyr I Just Wanna Be a Cowboy What to Do Sunday Walking Lady To the Urban Man Your Own Way
	Valley Gardens  (1975,  41.15)  ***/T Valley Gardens Nez Percé The Mood I'm in The Reason Why   Nolan   The Charge   Disillusion

Current availability:

• Both titles: Atlantic (Japan)

Wally suffered the rather dubious distinction of being championed by The Old Grey Whistle Test's 'Whispering' Bob Harris, these days known best for being a country music DJ (he sneered at the New York Dolls when they appeared on the Whistle Test, so he was hardly going to go for anything too energetic, was he?). In fact, Wally was produced by Harris and Rick Wakeman, which doesn't exactly inspire much confidence. While the band fitted (very) broadly into the 'progressive' category, there was more than a hint of country/rock about them, especially with Paul Middleton's steel guitar; West Coast Prog, anyone? Actually, the album isn't that bad, just rather forgettable, with a regrettable lack of energy. Paul Gerrett plays Mellotron on one track only, the twelve-minute To The Urban Man, with a string part drifting in and out of the song. Pete Sage's electric violin confuses the issue in places, but it's definitely only the one 'Tron track.

Second (and last) album, Valley Gardens, carries on in a similar vein to their debut, including a side-long track, The Reason Why, which was probably the best thing the band recorded. Gerrett was replaced by Nick Glennie-Smith, who gets marginally more 'Tron in this time round, with strings on the title track and the first part of The Reason Why, Nolan, but it's all pretty minor, to be honest. So; so-so albums, minimal 'Tron. Not that exciting, really, although I've heard an awful lot worse. I believe that's called 'damning with faint praise'. Oh well.

Atavachron wrote: Cylli Kat wrote: Didja ever notice that you never hear the "rap" about going to church, helping the poor, feeding the hungry, caring about human rights, eating your vegetables, doing the right thing even when it may hurt, etc.??? firstly, I would bet good money there is some hiphop about all those things second, who the hell wants to hear about going to church, feeding the hungry and eating vegetables  ..you think early Beatles and Zep fans wanted to hear about that?

tell me where ANYWHERE IN ROCK MUSIC THERE IS ANYTHING OF THIS SORT
and don't say Neal Morse, that one's too obvious

I wouldn't dismiss Nas so easily. He might not have done anything of interest in over a decade (or so I've heard), but his debut is still pretty good - if you manage to ignore some of the dodgy gangsta rap-esque lyrics. It has very little to do with the current mainstream hip-hop scene.

Then again, it might just be me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

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That Chuck D has some great one-liners.

I avoid Pitchfork like the plague. Black Sheep Boy is their only really great album.