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sleeper
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 17:32 |
James has effectively got it. He had a testing crash at Cartagena in Spain in February on his Superbike (he was getting ready to compete in the German Superbike Championship this year). He actually had serious ingeries that only really came to lite in the last couple of weeks. In effect his neck muscels havnt fully recovered and he just cant take the loads that F1 cars generate. However, doctors recjon its a case of when, and not if, he will be ready to race again. Badoer still has the drive for Spa this weekend, but I wouldnt be that surprised to see Michael in at Monza, a track I reckon Ferrari will do very well at with the KERS system.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 11:14 |
He had a motorcycle crash not too long ago and his injuries have not sufficiently healed enough for him to drive. I think they fear his neck may get damaged with all the Gee Force.
Edited by James - August 24 2009 at 11:16
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 10:01 |
Gene probably would've been better, but where was Michael? Clearly I missed something, enlighten me as to why Schumi didn't race, and was this is a one time thing or will he not get back into a ride after all?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 08:39 |
Marc Gené would have been a better choice, surely?
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 06:57 |
Excellent race by Rubens, probably the best drive I've seen from him since Silverstone 2003.
Badoer was a farce, the man doesnt bellong anyware near a GP.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 23 2009 at 23:03 |
Indeed. Spa is truly something. I also like Suzuka, and Turkey and China are pretty good as well. Even though they don't do it anymore (pretty much because it'd be suicide) the Nordschleife is awesome! The original nurburgring...it's like 15 miles long and really narrow, twisty and fast. Again, that would be instant death in an F1 car though...
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Posted: August 23 2009 at 22:45 |
@ Guigo: Wow! I didn't know that. Thats pretty awesome.
@ JJ: Probably my favorite track that F1 runs on. ![Big smile Big smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted: August 23 2009 at 21:14 |
An alright race, but no one can complain about the outcome! It was so great to see Rubino win, and it seems like EVERYONE was genuinely happy for him. And I understand why. Great result, and next race is Spa! Now THAT is a track
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Posted: August 23 2009 at 19:08 |
Man With Hat wrote:
![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) ![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) for Rubens!!
Great to see him back on top of the podium!
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His 10th victory and exactly the 100th by a Brasilian. ![Star Star](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif)
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 23 2009 at 18:05 |
![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) ![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) ![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) for Rubens!!
Great to see him back on top of the podium!
And man...is that a lovely track.
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 08:21 |
sleeper wrote:
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
sleeper wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.
Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver
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I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso.
I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.
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Have you read Zanardi's book?
There you can understand the way Briatore operates... why he's so succesful and why drivers hate him... |
I havnt no, but I'll cetainly give it a try.
I didnt know Zanardi used to be managed by Briatore.
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No, he wasn't managed by him but they had contacts in the early 90's, in Alex's first season in F1.
Every race fan should read Zanardi's book, it's the best racing book I've ever read. Funny, really deep is some places, with many anedoctes... inspirational indeed
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sleeper
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 06:36 |
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
sleeper wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.
Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver
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I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso.
I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.
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Have you read Zanardi's book?
There you can understand the way Briatore operates... why he's so succesful and why drivers hate him... |
I havnt no, but I'll cetainly give it a try. I didnt know Zanardi used to be managed by Briatore.
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 18:46 |
sleeper wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.
Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver
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I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso.
I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.
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Have you read Zanardi's book?
There you can understand the way Briatore operates... why he's so succesful and why drivers hate him...
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 18:20 |
sleeper wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.
Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver
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I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso.
I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.
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Agreed, on pretty much everything. I really do feel for him, and we do know how Flavio operates. But yeah...I guess he did underperform but that Renault is pretty bad. It takes Fernando to get anything good out of it. And news does sound good with Massa. Seems like he'll make a full recovery. I just hope his actual performance won't be affected. Some drivers bounce back from such severe injuries, some are never the same....
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 17:57 |
It would be nice to see but I seriously doubt it, recovery from a fractured skull and subsiquent operation to relieve brain swelling is not something that you rush.
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 04:00 |
Yes, I hope he fully recovers for his home GP in Sao Paulo.... isn'it the penultimate race of the season?
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Posted: August 04 2009 at 22:38 |
Well Massa says he's going to attempt to come back soon. I guess he doesn't want Schumacher taking all the glory. ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif) Good look to him though on a quick return.
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Posted: August 03 2009 at 17:53 |
toroddfuglesteg wrote:
Grosjean is in. It is reported in Brazil that Piquet is buying Sauber. Piquet has always bought his own teams... with the exception of Renualt. Go figure. |
Its certainly the rumour (Piquet Sr buying Sauber) but we'll see how true it is. I hadnt thought of that, Renault is the only time NPJ hasnt driven for a team owned by his father.
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Posted: August 03 2009 at 17:52 |
JJLehto wrote:
That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.
Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver
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I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso. I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.
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Posted: August 03 2009 at 15:09 |
Grosjean is in. It is reported in Brazil that Piquet is buying Sauber. Piquet has always bought his own teams... with the exception of Renualt. Go figure.
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