Is Rush prog - Progressive Rock Music Forum

^Uhh... no.

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richardh wrote:

In the seventies the term 'prog' was a narrow corridor

The term ‘prog,’ in fact an abbreviation that has gained a good measure of new meaning, did not exist in the seventies, as progressive rock was a more narrowly defined genre with a limited number of bands recognized under that label. Even Pink Floyd wasn't considered progressive rock; rather, they were a psychedelic rock band. The term “progressive rock” emerged in the late 1960s as a way to describe a new wave of underground music that sought to push the boundaries of rock music through complex compositions, innovative instrumentation, and eclectic structure, often featuring medieval folk and classical music sounds. However, during the seventies, when progressive rock was in its heyday, the shorthand “prog,” a much broader category where one can put both Yes and Rush and Pink Floyd and Return to Forever and Tangerine Dream and Dream Theater, did not exist.

Edited by Mishkou - December 25 2024 at 01:28

Mishkou wrote:

Jared wrote:

give us an explanation for your conclusion?

Rush wasn't a progressive rock band at the time when they were a current band because their sound was firmly rooted in hard rock, characterized by powerful guitar riffs and a driving rhythm that set them apart from the more experimental and symphonic elements typical of progressive rock. Now, one can categorize them as prog, but it's hindsight because nobody considered them progressive rock back then.

A lot depends on the definition but because we now have prog metal (that didn't exist in 1978) we can now consider Rush one of the pre-cursor's of that genre. If we just limit prog to 'The Big Six' for the sake of argument then it was more or less done by 1977 with Pink Floyd- Animals being the last truly great 'traditional' prog album. After this what we call 'Prog' just diversified becoming simpler in many cases mainly because of the punk backlash against prog. (btw I don't consider Jazz Rock/Fusion ''Prog'' at all. It's just too wide an area to be lumped in with prog).

In the seventies the term 'prog' was a narrow corridor because there were commercially succesful bands that represented it (The Big Six). In general I can accept 2 strands of thought. A) It was a movement that happened post psychedelic and burnt out by 1977 or B) it was an ethos that started in the late sixties and adapted to current styles and thinking of the times. PA as a site clearly represents the latter and therefore Rush are as important as any Post Rock or Neo Prog band. IMO

octopus-4 wrote:

I'm not very expert in Rush. I don't dislike them so it could mean that they are quite prog, but they fail to kick with me. I can't say why.

Pretty much the same here. On a side note Genesis have never really pushed my buttons either for some reason, even though I consider them very influential and giants of the genre, in particular the Gabriel-Hackett era.

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Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ I'm thinking more about that thick, crunchy and heavy riff sound. That kind of punch. Working Man is the closest I ever heard a Rush-riff resembling Doom Metal. I prefer the drum sound too, although the drummer is no Neil Peart:). It's meatier. One Little Victory, although very "Metal" has virtually nothing of the qualities I'm thinking of. It does have other qualities, and I don't mind the track though.

That's funny, because I prefer nothing from that first album. It's their wannabe phase. I tired of it because Alex tries to channel Page so hard. I'm glad they got past that. For thick, crunchy, heavy riffs, that's what Tony Iommi and a few other guys specialize in!

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Cristi wrote:

Hrychu wrote:

/s

TBH I do not know what that means. Smile

Really? It's quite common online lately.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2FS

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Cristi wrote:

Saperlipopette! wrote:

^The image of a classic snob with his pipe and a raised eyebrow should give you a little hint.

Still I'm not sure. LOL

Hrychu wrote:

/s

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^The image of a classic snob with his pipe and a raised eyebrow should give you a little hint.

verslibre wrote:

Which takes us full circle to progressive (adj., relating to or characterized by interest in new ideas) and capital "P" you/know/what.

Okay, there might be such a thing like "progressive" in the most common use and sense. Tongue

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