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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2011 at 13:44
He is not helping the Tigers out at all either.  I don't think he has recovered yet from last year's broken ankle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2011 at 13:37
What the intercourse is going on with Magglio Ordonez!?! He is not helping my fantasy team out at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 23:27
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Absolute beautiful day at the ballpark today.  Just too bad that the Tigers suck.
 
Tigers don't suck, the Royals are just awesome this year. Cool
 
No, besides the Royals playing quite well, the Tigers have been off-kilter for the first 3 series of the year. Usually it's either the result of the pitching putting us in a whole we can't get out of, or mind-bogglingly annoying errors! I've never seen such sloppy fielding.
 
P.S. Going to see the Tigers play the Chisox in a couple weeks.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 22:37
awwww how cute...the Sahx fans in Boston are at the point of riot, over their 2nd win of the season.

It was a pretty horrid game though.
Never saw so many people get on base, included bases loaded so many times, and still have the game 1-0 for so long.
But hey, CC had to fight really hard, bullpen let us down and Beckett pitched great.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 21:27
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Absolute beautiful day at the ballpark today.  Just too bad that the Tigers suck.
 
Tigers don't suck, the Royals are just awesome this year. Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:01
Absolute beautiful day at the ballpark today.  Just too bad that the Tigers suck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 16:14
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

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Tough Jays loss in extra innings.  It went 14 innings, but since it was a west coast game I went to bed before it ended.


And you call yourself a Jays fan. Tongue

Embarrassed

Jared Weaver is killing the Blue Jays this afternoon.  11 strikeouts and only 1 hit through 5 innings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:45
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Tough Jays loss in extra innings.  It went 14 innings, but since it was a west coast game I went to bed before it ended.


And you call yourself a Jays fan. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:30
Tough Jays loss in extra innings.  It went 14 innings, but since it was a west coast game I went to bed before it ended.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 15:47
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Lee had a rough outing yesterday.  :(


You could tell it was going to be bad when he walked someone. I had to deal with hearing the people on talk radio saying how we wasted money on him and he's terrible.


Haha, well that's dumb.  He was great in his first start.

But a lot of people make much ado about April baseball for some reason.

Also, YEAH CHOOCH
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 15:41
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Lee had a rough outing yesterday.  :(


You could tell it was going to be bad when he walked someone. I had to deal with hearing the people on talk radio saying how we wasted money on him and he's terrible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 14:01
A second good start last night by Kyle Drabek last night in a no decision aside from some early shakiness.  Jays rallied to beat the Angels 3-2.  The bullpen has been really impressive so far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 11:30

Opening day was a blast yesterday.  The Tigers won 5 to 2.  They scored 4 runs in the 1st inning and basically nothing the rest of the game.  It was cold, but it stopped raining before we got down there so we stayed dry and that was a good thing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 11:25
Lee had a rough outing yesterday.  :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:50
Juicing was the sign of the times.  Many or most players were doing it.  And I have no doubt that management knew it, and probably encouraged it.  And the media knew it and just didn't care.  "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:35
^ Complete agree. I could care less about what Rose did. Juicing is a different story.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:30
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Whether true or not I do not know, but at least from what he says (take that for what it is worth) Pete Rose claimed to have only bet on the Reds to win or bet other games with insider information.  Apparently, he would call up Sparky before a game and ask him how Jack Morris' arm was or some such thing and then bet the game accordingly.  He claimed that he never bet on the Reds to lose or was involved in throwing games.  If this is true, then from his team's standpoint anyways, I don't think that was that bad of a thing.  He had extra incentive to try and make sure his team won.  From the insider trading standpoint, the only person who he was "hurting" was the bookie who was operating the illegal gambling operation anyways, so not really anything wrong with that either, per se.  Aside from the whole ethics thing and integrity of the game thing.

The problem with gambling is once you go in the hole and you start owing the bookies money or they will break your arms and legs.  When you start shaving points and throwing games in order to win money on your bets to pay back the bookies, or fixing the games so that the bookies win games that they have the insider information on, etc...  Whether this ever occurred with Pete Rose, I do not know, and I don't recall ever hearing that it ever happened, and he certainly never admitted to it happening.  I suspect that it probably did and I think that baseball either knows or suspects that it happened too.
 
 
 
One thing we can say for sure, gambling did not effect his play and that is all that should matter with the HOF.  "Shoeless" Joe Jackson should also be in the Hall, by the way.
 
Hell, if Ty Cobb and Kenesaw "Mountain" Landis are in then baseball can't really keep anyone out on the basis of character.
 
Directly cheating on the field (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa) to pad your Hall credentials is a completely different story, though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2011 at 10:07

Whether true or not I do not know, but at least from what he says (take that for what it is worth) Pete Rose claimed to have only bet on the Reds to win or bet other games with insider information.  Apparently, he would call up Sparky before a game and ask him how Jack Morris' arm was or some such thing and then bet the game accordingly.  He claimed that he never bet on the Reds to lose or was involved in throwing games.  If this is true, then from his team's standpoint anyways, I don't think that was that bad of a thing.  He had extra incentive to try and make sure his team won.  From the insider trading standpoint, the only person who he was "hurting" was the bookie who was operating the illegal gambling operation anyways, so not really anything wrong with that either, per se.  Aside from the whole ethics thing and integrity of the game thing.

The problem with gambling is once you go in the hole and you start owing the bookies money or they will break your arms and legs.  When you start shaving points and throwing games in order to win money on your bets to pay back the bookies, or fixing the games so that the bookies win games that they have the insider information on, etc...  Whether this ever occurred with Pete Rose, I do not know, and I don't recall ever hearing that it ever happened, and he certainly never admitted to it happening.  I suspect that it probably did and I think that baseball either knows or suspects that it happened too.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2011 at 18:51
Sad thing is, Pete Rose is forever shunned from the HoF and regarded as a disgrace of baseball while over the last 2 decades or so, thousands numbers of players have been cheating the actual game (I'm sure it goes down to lower levels).

I have lightened up a bit. I realized the good players are still good, and roids were used in conjunction with their training...and some players only did it to help heal from injuries/maintain somewhat of a career...but competitive edge is competitive edge.
I really am not sure if what Pete did in comparison makes him the devil he is....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2011 at 17:08
Manny retires, another candidate for the hall of shame, actually they could field a pretty good team, Denny Mclain for starting pitcher, last 30 game winner, pete rose for 2nd base, bonds in the of, Mcguire at first, sammy sosa in the of, rafael in the of
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