PA Songwriters'/Composers' Association

^I wish I knew how to be helpful to you, Dayvenkirq, we just think so differently and approach music from such opposite directions.    Half the time when I'm playing I have no idea (at the time) what chords/notes/scales I'm using - I write down the notes and then go back later to figure out the chords/key(s) when another musician needs them to follow along with.  It's all about the feel of the instrument and when/how things seem to lock into place.  Really interesting to see someone writing about the opposite way of coming at it - thinking about chords and scales first.

Off to listen to some more of floflo's stuff.

Okay floflo79, I got to #29 on the soundcloud.  I can give you a little general feedback at this point.

Firstly, the highlight for me was definitely "The Old Heroes (Real)."  I enjoyed that one a lot.  It's driving, and just keeps moving from one thing to the next.  Some of the electronic stuff is a bit too slow and plodding for me, I'm waiting for it to do something - not so when you're playing for real.

Of the electronic ones I liked "Beezelbub's Gossip" best.  There's a guitar riff that just lurches out of the rest of it at you, and I liked the spontaneity of it.

There are many, many different compositional ideas here, one theme of which is the use of traditional melodies (like 'My Country Tis of Thee') in various places.  I would like to know if there is a story behind that or if it's something you were playing with just to try it.  Musically it doesn't seem to be performing any particular task but sometimes these things exist for artistic/storytelling reasons.  I need some context!

The parts of the compositions that are faster were more interesting to me.  Some parts just hang on a single chord for too long (throughout multiple tracks) without much of anything else happening.  Sometimes that is intentional, to convey a certain emotion (such as apathy), but again I have no context, so I'm not sure.

I'm simply astounded by the amount of work you've put into this.  I need a break!  And I'm just listening!  I will listen more tomorrow.

floflo79 wrote: My album called Vango II. In three parts. For the song Garden Ruins in the second part, check the good version here : Searching for feedback :)

Floflo - You have a lot of material here - all electronically generated, it sounds like.  I found your soundcloud, that was a little bit easier for me to digest.  Do you have all the same things there as you do on the YouTube links?  I know some of it was the same.

It's going to take me a little time to get anything really useful to you back on the composition because there is so much, but I can tell you two things right off the bat:
1. I'm interested in it
2. I'd really like to hear it performed rather than Midi-ed.

Sometimes some sounds were too sudden and loud - made me jump out of my skin!  Not sure if that was the intention or not.  Electronic sounds can be tricky like that, if the sound isn't subtle it can sound a bit 8-bit Nintendo and not mix in well.

Could you tell us a little about what inspired you to do all this? Where would you like to take it?  Is there a story behind it?  Are you in it for the pure sound?  Do you want to take this material and try to use it to interact with other performers?  There is a lot of potential here and I'd be interested to know what direction you want it to move in - that will help others on here give you useful criticism with perspective. 

Star_Song_Age_Less wrote: There's a bunch of new stuff on here that I haven't listened to yet - will post feedback tonight, hopefully. I myself just started a soundcloud account, and tested it with an old mix of one of my songs.  I love this mix... we changed the drums, though, and now need to re-adjust.  Still, here it is.  "The River Girl" on soundcloud. https://soundcloud.com/jamie-kern-5/the-river-girl

I was working on a song today, with a "mischievous fairy tale" kind of aura, and I think it might have subconsciously been inspired by this song, which I listened to a couple nights ago.

I actually listened to Zeitgeist and forgot to answer back. Having heard all the tracks before, it was nice to see them in a finalized form. 

Edited by Polymorphia - February 09 2015 at 23:56

There's a bunch of new stuff on here that I haven't listened to yet - will post feedback tonight, hopefully.

I myself just started a soundcloud account, and tested it with an old mix of one of my songs.  I love this mix... we changed the drums, though, and now need to re-adjust.  Still, here it is.  "The River Girl" on soundcloud.

https://soundcloud.com/jamie-kern-5/the-river-girl

Star_Song_Age_Less wrote: EchoTail - I put your album Hold The Throne "away" for a while (I try to do this on purpose - to refresh my perspective) - listened to it again and was very suddenly hit by an impression.  Do you remember the grungy '90s band called Bush?  There's a likeness between you in parts that seemed to slap me in the face.  I enjoy the music more after putting it away and hearing it again, which is a really good sign.  I'll have a review up for you soon.

Edited by floflo79 - January 24 2015 at 03:34

Dayvenkirq wrote: In any case, ... Polymorphia wrote: On the topic of innovation: 1. It is happening, but not so much in rock music. Moreso in electronic music. ... 6. There IS a different kind of innovation that is happening, a revisionism in the revivals, which is why I don't dismiss them altogether. There will be a couple bands that add a unique songwriting sense to the music, or some more modern elements, or something that hasn't previously been applied to that genre. At the same time, there's only a handful of bands that are really doing anything radical and whether or not they are doing anything truly radical is still arguable, esp. because, again, rock music is no longer at the frontier of technology. Armed with this explanation, can you give one example of a recent true innovation in electronic music?

Point 6 is supposed to refer to rock music only btw. 

Edited by Polymorphia - January 19 2015 at 09:37

Hey folks! Haven't been on in a while as I've been super busy playing with The Cinematic Orchestra and my own project Zeitgeist... Speaking of Zeitgeist, our album has officially been launched! Check it out if you fancy odd-timed contemporary jazz/prog with a heavy influence on improvisation. Or just music in general. I think you'll like it.