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darkshade 
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 Posted: May 22 2013 at 00:48 |
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^ and that's been over for a long time now.
I agree that rock is just the new jazz; that 'old' style of music. Now it's House/Dance music, and really bad hip-hop. The 90s/early 2000s were rock's final heydays. Of course, with prog, we all know it's much more than rock n' roll.. There is sophistication, and melding of genre's to a point where it cannot be simply defined as 'rock'. It is just a component for much bigger music.
**Also, not to go off track in this thread, I've always thought that when rock n' roll could go no further, in comes heavy metal, and that is the genre (and all it's sub-genres) that carries the 'rock' through the 21st century. Metal is something that came directly out of rock and became its own entity.
Edited by darkshade - May 22 2013 at 00:52
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 22 2013 at 00:47 |
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^ What this guy said.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 22 2013 at 00:44 |
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Rock will never die, but no one said it would never lose its #1 status
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jude111
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Posted: May 22 2013 at 00:11 |
 NotAProghead wrote:
I think it will die, but not too soon. More than 40 years we hear that rock is dead, but it's still more or less alive. |
When Green Day came out in the 1990s and people referred to them as a 'punk' band, my attitude was, and remains: No, punk was something that happened in the late 70s.
People still compose symphonies and play jazz and blues, yet those genres are... for want of a better word... dead. Not what they once were. Seriously shrunken. No longer relevant. Maintained by curators in museums. Something like that.
There are still revivalists today. Bands coming along playing as though it's 1975 - or 1985. Tapping into that desire for retro and nostalgia - even improving upon it in some cases. Yet it's still... not authentic.
Edited by jude111 - May 22 2013 at 01:16
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jude111
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Posted: May 22 2013 at 00:03 |
A related issue, that concerns PA: Should "prog music" remain tethered to rock and roll, a genre whose destiny seems to be waning, or should 'prog' be considered as something that can survive rock and roll's retreat?
Right now, it's a prerequisite for any band's inclusion into PA that it be rooted in rock and roll. This is why only those early electronic acts are included in PA (Kraftwerk, Vangelis, Eno, Tangerine Dream, et al), but not those who followed in their steps. (I don't want to revive an earlier argument about whether the Orb or FSOL or Aphex or Boards of Canada belong in PA...) There's no subgenre here at PA that isn't rooted in r&r, IOW. And maybe there should be?...
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NotAProghead
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Posted: May 21 2013 at 23:57 |
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I think it will die, but not too soon. More than 40 years we hear that rock is dead, but it's still more or less alive.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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jude111
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Posted: May 21 2013 at 23:48 |
CPicard wrote:
I don't know: I listen exclusively to Mbalax music. 
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CPicard
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Posted: May 21 2013 at 23:46 |
I don't know: I listen exclusively to Mbalax music.
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jude111
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Posted: May 21 2013 at 23:40 |
Think about all those old songs with lyrics like, "Love live rock!," and, "Hey hey, my my, rock and roll will never die"... No one writes songs like those any more... A writer over at Pitchfork wrote awhile a go how hip-hop's gobal reach far exceeded that of rock and roll's, and went on to prove it. With the advent of new genres like rap and all kinds of electronic music, it seems pretty likely that rock and roll's heyday is over. What d'ya think about it?
Edited by jude111 - May 21 2013 at 23:43
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