It was the worst of times and the best of times

I don't really think you can do this with Genesis, apart from the huge leap up in quality from the debut to Trespass. Their decline into 80s synth-pop rubbish wasn't really an overnight affair so much as it was a gradual slide into hell. TOTT and WAW are still quite good, barring a couple of tracks, ATTWT and Duke were a different sound but still reasonably enjoyable, Abacab and Shapes were more or less write-offs but had their good moments (I've always like Home by the Sea and it's sequel), and IT and ICD are basically the worst of the worst. There isn't really any moment in there that jumps out as "Here is where we lost our creativity." It was a slow and gradual process, IMHO.

Epignosis wrote: King By-Tor wrote: I'd consider that an opposite actually. Relayer wasn't great IMO and GFTO is one of my favorite Yes albums :D Drama --> 90215 we can all agree on that one! I would rather do it the other way round (Tormato < Drama).  I quite like Yes's 80s music for what it is (to be fair, I quite like Tormato as well, but I can see why it's generally loathed).

I'd consider that an opposite actually. Relayer wasn't great IMO and GFTO is one of my favorite Yes albums :D



Drama --> 90215

we can all agree on that one!

Deep Purple.

Machine Head --> Who Do We Think We Are?

I felt the Pink Floyd's drop off was after "Animals".

Asphalt wrote: AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: yes, indeed you hit the nail on the head with those     a couple of posts up - i was shocked as I loved Opeth's Deliverance - a melancholy excursion showing how the band can be diverse in style rather than all that caustic gravel voice screaming.   How about Queen - The Game was followed by 'Flash Gordon' - come on, that was a classic! I think you're thinking about Damnation, not Deliverance. However, I disagree nonetheless with the original post. I don't think Opeth had any dramatic increase/decrease in quality. Not to say they haven't changed, just that none of the direction changes they had strikes me as uninspired (Even though at first I hated Ghost Reveries).

I hope you changed your mind about Ghost Reveries... :D

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: yes, indeed you hit the nail on the head with those     a couple of posts up - i was shocked as I loved Opeth's Deliverance - a melancholy excursion showing how the band can be diverse in style rather than all that caustic gravel voice screaming.   How about Queen - The Game was followed by 'Flash Gordon' - come on, that was a classic!

I think you're thinking about Damnation, not Deliverance. However, I disagree nonetheless with the original post. I don't think Opeth had any dramatic increase/decrease in quality. Not to say they haven't changed, just that none of the direction changes they had strikes me as uninspired (Even though at first I hated Ghost Reveries).

RoyFairbank wrote: hmmm... you know this is hard.... I usually blanket like a lot of my bands. Especially from the masterpieces and the surrounding albums. Biggest dropoffs in general then are probably Genesis: We-can't Dance to Calling All stations, Bob Dylan, Infidels to the still alright Empire Burlesque, Pete Townshend from White City to the still pretty good Iron Man.... But wait.... now that I think of it, Going For the One to Tormato - right? and much lesser, Pallas the Sentinal to the Wedge, a sort of D-grade masterpiece to a D-grade mediocrity.

yes, indeed you hit the nail on the head with those

Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - April 24 2010 at 11:07

sleeper wrote: Opeth, Blackwater Park is one of the top 5 albums I have ever heard, a masterpiece if ever there was one but the follow up, Deliverence, is incoherant nonsense and just plain terrible.

those choices were interetsing and I agree with all but that Final Cut. But ah well, Pink Floyd are like that. Some like Waters, some like Gilmour. They are polar opposites these days each creating their own Floyd band, give me Gilmour anyday.