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Barla 
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 Posted: December 27 2007 at 13:00 |
 Drakk wrote:
Well, really it's not hard to say "Rap Sucks" when you put Fifty Cent as the poster child for the whole genre. |
jajaja, it would be Eminem when he was at the peak of the genre, IMO. 
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Chris H
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:05 |
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I like At The Drive-In, Jimmy Eat World, The Fire Theft. Do any of those count? My brother is really into old-school rap and from what I hear I can't say it's the best stuff on the planet, although it is way better that new-school "gangster rap" because at least the gentlemen rapping are intelligent and prove worthy points. So I guess I like "emo" better, but I really can't vote.
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Drakk
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:03 |
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Well, really it's not hard to say "Rap Sucks" when you put Fifty Cent as the poster child for the whole genre.
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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!
Al di Meola.
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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:01 |
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old emo from what I've heard is pretty decent (admittedly only really heard At the Drive In and snippets of other bands, not sure how much that counts)
new "emo" as in really POP PUNK is meeeeeeeh at best and eeeeeeeeek at worst
rap can run the gambit : there's moronic rappers as there are moronic rockers. Poison is equivalent to 50 Cent in my eyes. However, Saul Williams has proved to me there's something good in nearly in everything, and I'm still trying to find some rap that's more in an intelligent vein
Edited by heyitsthatguy - December 27 2007 at 00:02
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Drakk
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Posted: December 26 2007 at 23:59 |
Oh Lord.
I concur with the above poster.
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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!
Al di Meola.
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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Philéas
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Posted: December 26 2007 at 23:16 |
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I think there's an incredible amount of ignorance and misinformed statements in this thread.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 01:08 |
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Depends on how you define emo. Actually it doesn't. Rap is worse than both original emo and the modern "emo"
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sean
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 01:04 |
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i don't particularly enjoy either but i wouldn't say either is worse than the other.
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Barla
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:48 |
Emo. I just can't stand any of those bands... On the other hand, stuff like 50 Cent and specially Eminem is actually very good. My bro has all Eminem albums, and I remember I enjoyed them (Cleaning Out My Closet and that song with Dido are great). Oh, and how can we forget Without Me, Slim Shady, etc etc. I enjoy it these days. 
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markosherrera
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:40 |
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Well I ought to search about what groups are Emo or not because if I compare 30 secs to mars with eminem ,50 cents ..I prefer 3o secs to mars but I dont like the 90% of bands of new breed or similar to 30 secs to mars.
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Dim
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:33 |
chamberry wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
With all due respect.
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Why not? You're not going to die trying and you'll gain more music to enjoy. It isn't a sin to like hip-hop or emo either. What will you loose trying?
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I know, it's just everytime hip hop songs sounds the same, and the more I listen to it the less I can concentrate on it, and at the end of the day, I realise how bad it sounded.
I do respect underground rap like immortal technique and Jedi mind tricks though.
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chamberry
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:49 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
With all due respect.
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Why not? You're not going to die trying and you'll gain more music to enjoy. It isn't a sin to like hip-hop or emo either. What will you loose trying?
Edited by chamberry - December 23 2007 at 12:50
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:49 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Both are like hair metal, each are destroying the charts, and each are getting large radio, MTV, and all around media play. Like hair metal though, they will go down, FAST, and fifteen years from now, our children are gonna be saying, "how could that have been the cool thing, it's so stupid". |
Rap's been a long time dying.
Conjecture: more stratified society = more people living (and dying) the gangsta style = more popularity for rap
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Dim
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:42 |
With all due respect.
No
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chamberry
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:41 |
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None is worse.
I'm a huge fan of hip-hop (I've been listening to it more than prog this year alone) and I like some songs and bands from the "emo" scene most notably 30 Seconds to Mars.
It's better to enjoy music rather than dissing it. Why not explore both genres a bit? I'm pretty sure you'll like at least 1 artists from them.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:38 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Dim
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:38 |
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Both are like hair metal, each are destroying the charts, and each are getting large radio, MTV, and all around media play. Like hair metal though, they will go down, FAST, and fifteen years from now, our children are gonna be saying, "how could that have been the cool thing, it's so stupid".
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Visitor13
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:30 |
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Tuz, have you ever heard any Emo on any Polish radio? I had to go to a band's Myspace to find out what the stuff actually is, it seems totally absent from any local media.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:40 |
What's better: this  or this?  I really can't choose... 
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:16 |
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