What's worse -- emo "rock" or rap?
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Topic: What's worse -- emo "rock" or rap?
Posted By: YesFan72
Subject: What's worse -- emo "rock" or rap?
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 20:11
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Just wondering... ------------- 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 21:58
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Emo, as in the stuff that gets labelled Emo these days, is all bad, but better than mainstream Rap. Underground Rap can be really nice, but I haven't explored it thoroughly, and old (real) Emo from the 80's to mid 90's is one of my favourite genres anyway (it hasn't got anything to do with contemporary "Emo"), so I voted Rap. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 22:05
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Alternative/Underground Rap is actually very good. Other rap can also be pretty good, though it really depends on the artist.
Emo (the modern stuff) is all crap. I haven't heard much from the real Emo phase though. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 22:10
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I won't say either is worse because that implies that one is better.
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 06:32
| I smell a lot of elitism in this thread. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 06:41
| Prog, because it is only marginally better (if at all), and doesn't make any money. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 07:24
Emo. I just HATE IT! 
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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 07:26
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Emo definitely, at least rap has a bit of creativity and substance to it. ------------- Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat? |
Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:51
| I hate both, but I probably hate emo more cause N.Ireland is full of emos. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:58
| Emo haircuts are kind of cute (on girls). To my knowledge rap doesn't even involve any particular haircuts, so rap is easily worse than emo. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:16
Threads like this 
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:40
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What's better: this  or this?  I really can't choose...  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:30
| Tuz, have you ever heard any Emo on any Polish radio? I had to go to a band's Myspace to find out what the stuff actually is, it seems totally absent from any local media. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:38
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Both are like hair metal, each are destroying the charts, and each are getting large radio, MTV, and all around media play. Like hair metal though, they will go down, FAST, and fifteen years from now, our children are gonna be saying, "how could that have been the cool thing, it's so stupid". ------------- 
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:38
Of course I meant that both of them were bad.  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Tuzvihar wrote:Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:41
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None is worse. I'm a huge fan of hip-hop (I've been listening to it more than prog this year alone) and I like some songs and bands from the "emo" scene most notably 30 Seconds to Mars. It's better to enjoy music rather than dissing it. Why not explore both genres a bit? I'm pretty sure you'll like at least 1 artists from them. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:42
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With all due respect.
No -------------
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:49
Rap's been a long time dying. Conjecture: more stratified society = more people living (and dying) the gangsta style = more popularity for rap |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 12:49
Why not? You're not going to die trying and you'll gain more music to enjoy. It isn't a sin to like hip-hop or emo either. What will you loose trying? -------------
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:33
I know, it's just everytime hip hop songs sounds the same, and the more I listen to it the less I can concentrate on it, and at the end of the day, I realise how bad it sounded.
I do respect underground rap like immortal technique and Jedi mind tricks though. -------------
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:40
| Well I ought to search about what groups are Emo or not because if I compare 30 secs to mars with eminem ,50 cents ..I prefer 3o secs to mars but I dont like the 90% of bands of new breed or similar to 30 secs to mars. |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:48
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Emo. I just can't stand any of those bands... On the other hand, stuff like 50 Cent and specially Eminem is actually very good. My bro has all Eminem albums, and I remember I enjoyed them (Cleaning Out My Closet and that song with Dido are great). Oh, and how can we forget Without Me, Slim Shady, etc etc. I enjoy it these days.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 01:04
| i don't particularly enjoy either but i wouldn't say either is worse than the other. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 01:08
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Depends on how you define emo. Actually it doesn't. Rap is worse than both original emo and the modern "emo" -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 23:16
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I think there's an incredible amount of ignorance and misinformed statements in this thread. |
Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 23:59
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Oh Lord.
I concur with the above poster. ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:01
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old emo from what I've heard is pretty decent (admittedly only really heard At the Drive In and snippets of other bands, not sure how much that counts) new "emo" as in really POP PUNK is meeeeeeeh at best and eeeeeeeeek at worst rap can run the gambit : there's moronic rappers as there are moronic rockers. Poison is equivalent to 50 Cent in my eyes. However, Saul Williams has proved to me there's something good in nearly in everything, and I'm still trying to find some rap that's more in an intelligent vein ------------- 
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:03
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Well, really it's not hard to say "Rap Sucks" when you put Fifty Cent as the poster child for the whole genre. ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 00:05
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I like At The Drive-In, Jimmy Eat World, The Fire Theft. Do any of those count? My brother is really into old-school rap and from what I hear I can't say it's the best stuff on the planet, although it is way better that new-school "gangster rap" because at least the gentlemen rapping are intelligent and prove worthy points. So I guess I like "emo" better, but I really can't vote. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 13:00
jajaja, it would be Eminem when he was at the peak of the genre, IMO. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 15:03
I made a similar statement about rap over 20 years ago. When is it going to finally die? ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 16:27
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If the poll had said "post-hardcore" instead of "emo", my choice would have been rap, because you can find unique mathcore bands within post-hardcore. But it's extremely difficult to find any original "emo" (bands like Fall Out Boy and Dashboard Confessional...they all have similar vocals and subject-matter), whereas there's been interesting rap since the 90s (neo-soul, underground, etc.) Artists like Aesop Rock, MFDoom, and Nujabes make some really beautiful music. ------------- Skwisgaar Skwigelf: taller than a tree. Toki Wartooth: not a bumblebee. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 15:24
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Both are terrible. There are exceptions in each field (I don't know in emo though, but I'm sure there is something decent, I guess)....
If I was sent to an island told to pick 100 cds of only one of the two genres mentioned here, well....
the sounds of nature are always enthralling...
 Both are teen genres... mtv genres.... rap USED top have some personality (back in the days when they spoke of issues and not only of ho's, cars and golden teeth)... On the other hand, all that I know from emo is just pre-pubescent gargabe, perfect for prom parties.
Or maybe I'm wrong. I'm too old for emo maybe. ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 15:41
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I largely dislike both, and both combined. Emo/ Rap Fusion, ughh. Emo is the one that provokes more of a yuck reaction in me; whereas, I've found some rap music interesting, as well as great fun. Emo it is. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 19:31
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There are good and bad in both genre's. ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 21:34
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Very hard pick. It's always a great irony that "Emo" tends to a bit less emotive music than most of the stuff i like (prog, metal, Instrumental Virtuoso guitar, jazz fusion). The image itself i find absolutely appalling , i mean come on, males in black nail polish and eye liner, yuk. And the fact "emo' has made depression seem cool, i cannot stand, as depression is far from cool and many of the depressed people i know dont even like punk, let alone emo pop punk. As for Rap, no better IMO. Musically never great, but ill admit there was some fun 80s rap. As for the modern "gansta' rubbish, ARGH, gloriying violence, guns, promiscuos sex, drugs, excess materialism (aka 'bling and my 'ride). its all too silly for me.
I would say rap is worse by a hair, if only because its less musical, if one can even call it music
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 00:37
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I have a hard time stomaching a lot of these comments, especially when we have a lot of people totally baffled why a lot of people think that all prog is pretentious, arrogant drivel that pseudo intellectuals listen to make themeselves seem smarter.
Again, both have good and bad in their midsts. I'm not familiar with Emo, but I'm fairly certain what we call Emo now, and what was originally coined are very different things.
As for Rap/Hip Hop, that's just a ignorant blanket statement. 50 Cent, and all those "Gangsta" rappers, are not good representations of what Rap is, and stands for. There are artists in Hip Hop experiment with everything from Metal, to Country, to experimental music. I know of several artists using unconvential instruments within their music. As for lyrics, some of those MCs are the most intelligent, giftend and clever lyricists that have ever been in music, so please, don't disregard an entire genre because what you hear on the Radio is bad.
I love Progressive Rock, but I also love other genres as well, and just like Prog, you may have to dig past what other's find good, to find what you may really like. I understand personal preference, but calling them bad, stupid or in essence, what they are not isn't right. I love music in general, so I won't limit myself to any one genre. ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 02:51
I like your comment, and agree with what you say about "Rap". As a commercial musical style "Rap" or Hip Hop has been around since at least the early 80's. It has a great divergence of styles (although not as crazy as what they try to lump under the dreaded Prog umbrella) and many different takes. What most people associate Hip Hop to is Gangsta Rap which is very unfair. Hip Hop has its roots in Jazz and strangely enough Country and Irish/Scottish Traditional music. It is mainly vocal (Prog has a mainly instrumental focus) and relates personal reflections of not only street life but any way of life the artist is or has lived. Lyrics are considered poetry and has a strong resemblance to beat poetry of the 1950's. Some Hip Hop is very intelligent (and moving) some is just plain...you know. I really like early 80's old school east coast stuff, you cant beat Grand Master Flash and Mele Mel, just listen to "The Message" and you will see what I mean. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 13:29
Quoted for truth. This is the equivalent of saying "ELP's Love Beach sucks so that means that ALL prog sucks". Generalization is never a good thing and prog fans should know better. -------------
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:33
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I love Jedi Mind Tricks, Army of the Pharaohs, some Mobb Deep, some Nas, Immortal Technique, Necro, Non Phixion, but I've never heard any emo I like. So my vote goes to emo. ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:49
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As an old fogey I can't say I know what the hell this "emo" stuff is but I really can't imagine anything more degrading, unmusical and unprogressive as rap. If it is then I hope I never hear it. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:54
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30 Seconds To Mars is a good Emo band and so far its the one that made me interested in the genre (at least the modern one). Their debut album does have some prog influences particularly from Tool, Pink Floyd and King Crimson to a lesser extent. There's a bit of Post-Rock thrown in there too. Highly recommended if you're a fan of bands like Oceansize, Dredg, The Amber Light, Pure Reason Revolution, Muse and others like that. I heard that their follow-up is less creative than their debut so try to avoid it. -------------
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:01
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From what I heard, I don't think 30 Seconds To Mars is emo at all. They're just alternative.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:12
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They seem pretty emo to me, specially on their latest album. But in their debut album it isn't too noticeable except for Leto's vocal style. -------------
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:41
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the commercial versions of both suck, but emo gave us Coheed and Cambria, Dearhunter, and to a lesser extent The Mars Volta, and so is rediemed. However I find that uncomercial Hip-Hop is more interesting, just listen to Madlib. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 18:50
^^^  The Blue Note is a great instrumental Jazzy Hip-hop album. It's great to chill out to.-------------
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Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 18:53
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Just went to Madlib's myspace page. It sounds really great...he's collaborated with MFDoom and J. Dilla, so he must be awesome.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 19:32
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Rap... I like the political lyrics but the rhythm bord me after 30 seconds... Emo rock is awful too but at least has some creativity... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 19:51
You should check out his MF Doom collaboration, "Madvillain", ASAP if you haven't already. It's one of my favorite Hip-hop albums. Though having short songs, the flow and feel of the album is simply perfect. -------------
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:45
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If you like Jazzy Hip Hop, I highly recommend the Blue Scholars.
Their 2007 release, Bayani is one of my favorite releases this year.
If you want something more varied, try Blackalicious or K'naan. ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 01:14
They're tied, leave it. Both are terrible for the most part, rap has some alright guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Mos Def, emo is better overall than rap, but it has no artists that redeem it. I'm sorry, 30 Seconds and At the Drive-In suck. The best emo song is I Walk Beside You by Dream Theater. 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:45
I Walk Beside you is normally the track i skip on Octavarium.
And yes, may as well leave it both emo and rap as equally as horrendous crimes against music ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:59
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however If one were to combine emo and rap working off of the "buttereside up toast on the back of a cat" principle it would be the best genre in existence ... I'm off to go cut myself, motherf**ker -------------
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:09
No it exists and it is terrible. Atmosphere, RJD2, Aesop Rock....not one in the bunch I like. But the jazzy hip-hop concept intrigues me. ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 08:16
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Not everything is terrible what is rap or related.
The bands I have heard classified as emo are utterly horrendous. Tokio Hotel and a Hungainan group, No Thankx. The name of the latter says all.
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 08:44
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'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..' |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 15:49
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YYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK rap ------------- |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 01:21
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^^ Oh come on, rap had the prestige of having "FIDDYSENT" among its ranks, you know, the guy that has that really cool song where he raps about being overly materialistic, hoes, violence and bling. Yeah, i'm sure people know that song i'm talking about. -------------
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 19:20
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Hm. I'm torn. The worst of rap (especially anything played on Radio One) is entirely unlistenable. I generally don't like the genre. However, emo rock has produced absolutely nothing that I like, while I've heard a couple of more considered rap pieces that I actually have warmed up to. No idea what they are, but they were OKish... Emo "Rock" gets the vote. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 20:31
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Well, now that I think of it.
Rap and Hip hop are completely seperate things.
Hip Hop is the sh*t you hear on the radio, complete with pimps and ho's, and goofy sounds to make a rythym.
Rap is The hardcore songwriting with very little backround noise to distract from the lyrics, featring groups like Immortal technique and Jedi Mind tricks.
I dont like either groups, but there is a lot more respect in respect in rap than hip hop. -------------
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 21:12
If those are the defonitions I like both rap and hip hop, for rap I love Immortal Techique and Dr.Octagon. For Hip-Hop I love Madlib, Dj. Shadow & Heliocentrics, ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 21:18
^^ I always pictured the distinction more like, the old skool stuff like Grandmaster Flash and Run-DMC, and also newer but more classicist stuff like Mos Def and Jurassic 5 as Hip Hop, and stuff like Ice Cube and Tupac as rap. Both have a few OK artists, but mostly suck. A Tribe Called Quest is my favorite Hip Hop group, and Tupac is my favorite rapper, simply because he has flow and is easier on the ears that most; his lyrics are still awful. |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 22:02
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I've always considered the older, more lyric oriented acts as hip-hop and the newer, more rhythm and image appeal acts as rap. ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 22:08
| I've always had a sort of personal loathing for rap. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 22:15
That's only because you're a ho. ------------- |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 11:36
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Emo music is awful, fake emotions are just annoying.
Rap music I don't like particullarly. Gangster rap I find completely dispicible. ------------- 
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Posted By: ES335
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 15:52
| Since "I don't put a lot of energy into things I don't like" isn't an option I didn't vote. |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 18:25
woah, dont be hatin |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 17:21
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I just have to show you guys http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtqQLvkqAqL1YKXb5KLKoprty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080112214923AA33sRq&show=7#profile-info-Jtyl6JTMaa - this
Some of you will hate me, some of you will worship me. Most of you will remain indifferent, but will admit that this is epic. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 00:18
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I have come to the conclusion that KingCrimson776 was the only intelligent life form to answer the question -------------
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One person that answered the question tried to convince us emo "isn't crap". Another gives us a list of "Real emo bands" and "pop punk bands" so we can distinguish between the two genres. i believe they forgot to mention the distinct similarity: IT ALL SUCKS!Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:56
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I actually like the artsier, more genuine, older, and non-sucky emo (aka the real stuff like Sunny Day Real Estate, Mineral, Dear Ephesus, etc.). Rap is completely nonsense to me, not even music to my ears and contains absolutely nothing I can possibly find enjoyable. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: Novalis
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 05:43
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I think it's everyones right to say that they don't like a particular genre, even if they have only heard a few mainstream representations of it. If the parameters of that particular genre mean that nothing in it could possibly be enjoyed, then why can't someone say they dismiss it in it's entirety?
I find the fake emo emotion coupled with whiny singers to be intolerable - period.
And most rap, to me, barely qualifies as music. Rythmic poetry by cavemen over a drumbeat maybe, but not music.
In saying that, some "hip hop" is pretty good, e.g. Rjd2, DJ Shadow, Portishead, Massive Attack etc. That, and the fact I hate whiney little teenyboppers, means my vote goes to emo.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:31
I really enjoy their debut album. Like I said before it reminds me of Post-Rock, Tool and a bit of King Crimson. I've heard that their second one isn't as good and more commercial than artistic. -------------
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:44
It's like poo or wee! 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:43
OMG Mineral. Their first album is incredible. |
Posted By: Pinkk
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:36
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I'd say emo, but really, both genres suck. A lot.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:29
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I have problems understanding the concept of "emo". It is not a term that is used in Germany, at least not to my knowledge.
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 18:45
Be very grateful that you live in Germany.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 19:16
Seconded -------------
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 20:07
| Thurded. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 20:34
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Oh wow, I am very surprised. I expected rap to have like 3 times as many votes. Well, personally I think emo is worse. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 21:24
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Anyone cares to listen to 30 Seconds To Mars or any of the Rap / Hip-hop artists mentioned? Hello? Anybody? ... *dies waiting* -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:02
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not a 30 Seconds to Mars fan but I'm sure there's *some* emo somewhere I would find enjoyable there is no completely bad genre that I have found yet -------------
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 00:00
well considering your already dead...
Umm.. 30 Seconds to Mars is ok, and though I dont see the prog connection are a good origional band with mainstream success, somthing that needs to be applauded
and I think I have already talked about alot of the rap bands you mentioned, underground rap/hip-hop is one of my favourite genres.
In closing I would like to point out that Coheed and Cambria, The Dear Hunter, and The Mars Volta, all stemmed from the "emo" scene, and therfore it cant be all bad. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 00:38
| Ruben you are not alone. Though I must admit I have not heard any material people would call 'emo', so I cannot comment on the genre. I'd avoided posting in this thread before as there was only one direction it was heading. Over the last two years I have branched out my musical tastes, hip-hop being one of them and haven't regretted it. It started with the avant-garde side of the genre as this is where I felt most culturally at home, and moved on towards the soul/jazz side. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:00
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I like Immortal Technique
And some old school rap
oh and I dont know why but I also like tech n9ne
Emo = worse than rap deff
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 19:28
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EMO is worse, i like some rap. Old scool rap/hip hop like public enemy is great. ------------- 
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:33
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This poll proves that just about no one knows what real emo is. The crap you hear on the radio and MTV isn't real emo at all. First wave emo was known as "emotional hardcore" and existed in the mid 80's to early 90's. It was just that, emotional hardcore punk. Second wave emo is my favorite and was when the bands mellowed out and got artsier. Second wave emo was closer to hard rock and sometimes metal than punk and was very very beautiful. But then you get these modern bands who basically have nothing to do with real emo and they're horrible. Also, I'd pick any form of real music over rap any day.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: *Porcupine*
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:46
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Rap is just bad some people only like it because of the beats not the words were some of the emo rock isnt that bad at least they write there own music and play instruments. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:53
I have in fact heard many of the second wave emo bands and to be honest, it was still no better than average music to my ears. And yes, the currents "emo" bands are absolutely atrocious and i really would rather listen to the real emo bands. Emo as a genre has had no influence on me as a musician and to be honest, if it never existed, it would never have had much of a difference to many of the musicans on Progarchives. Having said that, if i come across people in the street, i tend to find the "emo" scene kids to be really friendly, caring and have even made friends among them. I am yet to find any "pure rap" people i would like to talk to, because the majority of them seem more interested in graffiting, vandalism and starting fights for no reason. So i think i will finally make my definitive pick and say Emo is better. -------------
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:02
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Yes, rap fans have given me the most trouble out of any musical group. Always trying to "convert" me, it seems... Anyway, I love emo because of *drumroll* the emotion. It's so palpable and when I hear the perfect combination of emotion in both music and lyrics, it's amazing. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:33
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I hate anything that doesn't have a mellotron in it.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 15:52
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mellotron rap??? Interesting..... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:57
Yes. The old Emo of course. There isn't any proper emotion in the new stuff. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:40
I'm aware about the existence of the early emo bands, but I haven't heard them yet. It's obvious that the thread starter was referring to the newest wave of emo rock that's all the rave on MTV so I just went along with it.  -------------
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:45
Sunny Day Real Estate - s/t = ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 21:57
exactly 
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 22:10
ha ha, and Europe stemmed from prog
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 22:26
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^^ not to say of course that C&C and TMV are worse than emo, but still; you see what happens to anything emo touches.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 19:17
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It makes the singers castrate themselves? -------------
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