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Posted: March 16 2005 at 14:22

Scarey to be called "boy" by a 37 yr old basket weaver. Confused

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Posted: March 16 2005 at 04:20

threefates wrote:

I was here loving ELP for a very long time before all this hoopla started. The reason for the many ELP threads.. or all the ELP bashing and ELP praising came because someone likes to pick on me... and somebody new didn't realize the process and decided to defend ELP and me. This started a verbal war... and a bunch of over the top messages by a lot of you who decided to join in... because as many of you have said... you just had fun joining in the bashing... but then that led to more praising...

SO otherwise... all of you as usual, created your own hell....

I could care less whether you love or hate ELP. ELP have proven themselves in history, they have their larels, they support themselves very well... and they will retire as heroes to many, if not any of you. They don't need your approval, they don't need to "not let you down"...it doesn't matter if you're into keyboards or guitars, or whether you like Greg's voice or Jon Anderson's voice... its all your opinion anyway.. and everyone else will have some agreements or disagreements... its just nature.

And since you all seem to want to know...Do I think ELP are perfect... well maybe sometimes I do... but logically I know they aren't. I understand their technique more than most of you obviously, I do think that Keith is a keyboard genius, whether or not Cert thinks he's grade whatever, its his compostion that has always appealed to me. I listen to the piano on Trilogy or Take a Pebble and it literally makes me melt... no classical music does that for me. Its my opinion... and its my feelings..

Is there stuff by them I don't like... well I didn't like any of the ragtime piano stuff in the beginning, altho I have since become very fond of Jeremy Bender and Benny... still not too big on the Sheriff or Are You Ready, Eddy... I don't like the Gambler or Love Beach from Love Beach and I'm not to thrilled with Hallowed it be thy Name. Only like BSS, Watching Over You and Father Christmas from Works 2, maybe Tiger in a Spotlight a little... Unlike Richard, I do like all of ELPowell, and I love Black Moon except maybe Paper Blood.. I even like some of In the Hot Seat, even tho that makes most ELP fans cringe...

But I love when people can talk about them bad or good without attacking each other... so thank you Richard for the civilized ELP thread... most appreciative!!

Good on you Linda Nice to see you proven to people your not fond of certain parts of ELP but don't dislike them completely..I was a bit worried that you might have slammed me in an earlier threat when i said i did'nt like aspects of later ELP & the members as solo artists.You see were not obsessives or we would think absolutly everything ELP related was perfect.

Reed stop picking on Linda you naughty boy

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Posted: March 16 2005 at 03:18

threefates wrote:

Do you genuinely believe I am "picking on you"?
Or am I giving you as much as I would anybody else, ie male,on this forum.I rattle your cage and you give as much back.You always come back and I reply,then you go off on one and the cycle continues.But I am NOT targetting you,as such.This is not some male/female thing and it is frustrating because how do I prove it is not.......?
I think it is unfair to suggest that I am picking on you,although if you genuinely believe it,then I will stop................ Embarrassed

I await your honest reply........... Big smile

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 21:28

We could always go back to bashing Radiohead, because Radiohead fans have such a better since of humor....

THIS IS ELP

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 21:24

I don't care for ELP, but I agree with Threefates here, beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

Some of us have made our beds, now we must lie in it, till a new band to bash will come around and delivers us from evil

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 19:07

SO otherwise... all of you as usual, created your own hell....

But I love when people can talk about them bad or good without attacking each other... so thank you Richard for the civilized ELP thread... most appreciative!!

THIS IS ELP

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 18:44

Matt0001 wrote:

like Kevin Smith movies

I like Kevin Smith Movies

Utterly Priceless.

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 18:26

kniprekcor wrote:

i just hate this band and i don't know why

Did'nt know you had sound machines out there.lol

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Posted: March 15 2005 at 18:20

I just can't take them seriously. Pictures At An Exhibition is typically indulgent fare, a perversion of Mussorgsky's original. Of course it's sillier than it has to be, with a caricature of classical rock on the closer, Nutrocker. And therein lies the problem. Almost every album has indulgent fare and silly presentations such as Benny the Bouncer, Are You Ready, Eddy? Sloppy filler on each album and it just gets worse until the overindulgent Works, Vols 1 and Vol 2. Closer To Believing is precious. Nobody Loves You Like I Do. Puh-leese! And the wanna-Beegees cover of Love Beach? I rest my case.

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Posted: March 02 2005 at 05:38

Matt0001 wrote:

I also impishly love to hate Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. For some silly reason, I enjoy criticizing them. They're an easy target--like Kevin Smith movies, egg McMuffins, and the San Fernando Valley. And their fans look so cute when they're fuming.

I Love egg McMuffins.

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Posted: March 02 2005 at 02:51

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One of the biggest problems I have is this "Virtuosic keyboards" thing - Keith may play as if he's a virtuoso, but I've heard real virtuosi - and Keith is not one. He's about Grade 6-7 - and I state that as someone who has done all the keyboard grade exams and the teaching diploma, then studied music with piano as my main instrument, but also played church and concert hall organs - so I'm familiar with technique.

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Wow... that was actually quite an enlightening post, Certif1ed. It had never occured to me that Keith wasn't amongst the best pianists ever and his improvisations weren't all that good. For some reason he was always automatically a piano god to me because a) He was better than me and b) He played in a band where piano/keyboard was so central. Hmmm... I guess he's not so untouchable after all :)

You're obviously not a die-hard ELP fan then...

karnevil9 wrote:

How does any of this answer the question "why don't people like ELP?"

Look i'm following onto to the section quoted by myself above ok!

F**k the original question man were making progress arn't we?

Oooh!

Temper, temper!

You obviously ARE a die-hard ELP fan then...

Fragile wrote:

Couldn't get a hold of any of them Certified so this will have to wait.But as the man with the wooden leg said.'That's a matter of opinion'

Awww...

Bring on the big guns... Lemme attem!

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Posted: March 02 2005 at 02:03

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kniprekcor wrote:

i just hate this band and i don't know why

Hey dude,do you like The Bangles? Wink

What do an ankh and eyethingy have to with with all?

Epic.

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Posted: March 02 2005 at 00:36

Vegetableman wrote:

The dog sings better lyrics than Lake

wuff wuff OOOOooooooouuuuuWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

translate that.

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Posted: March 01 2005 at 22:50

Karnevil9 wrote:

Vegetableman wrote:

I like ELP... I wouldn't say I love them. The biggest turnoff is the utterly terrible lyrics. Someone get me a ladder??? Blow your head apart?? Not to mention the tendencies to release songs such as Bennie the Bouncer and Are You Ready, Eddy?

Hows about Floyd track with a dog howling.

come on.look in the mirror

The dog sings better lyrics than Lake

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"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

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Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:24

Hangedman wrote:

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Fragile wrote:

Welcome Happy the Man to a great prog site.Rob the Plant your a big Zeppelin fan and have the gaul to allude to the great Jon Anderson's singing to a dying pig!!! The anvils and stirrups in your head must be smashed to a pulp listening to one of the over rated bands of our time

Oh burn on Robert Plant! I think I'm going to leave the forums now because you don't share my opinion!

Ive always been curious about the fact you hate jon anderson and love robert plant... I mean they both have an almost annoying pitch, but robert plants voice is a little less high, and Jon has the superior technical capabilites.

I honestly don't hate Jon Anderson's voice, I just exaggerate my opinions to create good ol fun arguments and such, with the humorless Yes fans

. his voice is similar with Plants in the pitch, but I find it choppy, and it seems to have some strange distant feel. It's definately and interesting voice, but Robert Plant has a beutiful long voice, with much range, as opposed to Anderson, who seems to never change his bloody pitch. Plant does have range, it's just that his voice may seem overblown for some with all the "BABIEs", and "MOMMAs", but that's often when the music is most energized.

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Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:11

Oh yes throughout the many Amsuing PMs I had between Karni I had a suspicion it was a troll all along, a very elaborate one at that. If so, then bravo.

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Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:08

I'd just like to say that all the overreacting over ELP lately because of Karni boy has been extremely ammusing, and unlike so many, I've managed not to get Tomato Faced over this silly crap. Haha, talking to my homie over the phone, I've been branded one of "those ELP fans."

Personally I like ELP more than Yes. Tell me is there some unspoken rule in music that you have to "earn your stripes" as a great musician before you go out and make arrogant bombastic showoff albums? And did Yes do this before they made their albums of this sort, and ELP not? Umm, well thank god this post is over, now I'm out of the evil "666 posts" mark

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