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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: March 03 2007 at 00:09 |
 Spiderprog wrote:
When it comes to defenitions Radiohead are already defined as Prog in the pages of music history (are they not listed in this website?). Personal opinion is something else. I can claim that King Crimson is not Prog, so what if I do? |
Nothing would happen except that:
- 100% of the Prog listening world thinks that King Crimson is Prog.
- Maybe 50% if not much more of the Prog listening people think Radiohead is not Prog.
King Crinson is a fact, Radiohead is most likely in doubt.
Iván
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Mr. Sanchez
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 23:58 |
Not Prog.
Prog-Related perhaps? Whatever..
They dont sound prog to me, just prog.....esque?
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Spiderprog
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 17:15 |
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When it comes to defenitions Radiohead are already defined as Prog in the pages of music history (are they not listed in this website?). Personal opinion is something else. I can claim that King Crimson is not Prog, so what if I do?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 15:15 |
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Does the Pope sh*t in the woods?
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Stjernestřv
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 14:58 |
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I'm kind of a newbie to prog, but I would label Radiohead as prog. Not the classic 70's kind, of course, but we have the 70's for that, don't we? :)
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Floydian42
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 14:52 |
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I think they are. I don't really care, either way I love them.
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Erpland316
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 14:13 |
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Radiohead is a progressive band
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 01:31 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
Ok I will do this one more time:
The Bends and earlier - Excellent alternative (but not prog)
OK Computer - Prog related with some moments of genius
Kid A & later - One of the best Art Rock bands going |
I agree with you in all of them but OK Computer, I think that was the turning from being an alternative band to an Art Rock one. And yes, Radiohead is prog.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 00:18 |
Bt-Tor wrote:
This has been discussed many times before... therefore I only say YES! |
This has been discussed many times before... therefore I only say NO!
I explained my arguments before so I won't insist, but who cares? They are here to stay.
BTW: Agree with HT's arguments.
Iván
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Bt-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 00:05 |
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This has been discussed many times before... therefore I only say YES!
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 20:04 |
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I've always thought of them as an experimental pop band with progressive, Avant-garde, and electronic overtones. I was surprised when I found them under art rock, but it doesn't matter.
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con safo
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 19:37 |
deja vu 
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valravennz
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 18:59 |
Fight Club wrote:
.. They don't sound anything like any other band typically associated with prog but still their music is highly progressive. If there are any doubts just think, how many artists sounded like Radiohead before Radiohead? |
You have a good point there Fight Club? Radiohead are quite unique amongst todays music offering. I also think they are progressive and could be considered "experimental" in line with the changes in direction their music has taken over the years. I do not think that "Hail to the Thief" harks back to "Pablo Honey" or "The Bends" in style. HTTT is perhaps Radiohead's most accessible album to date other than "OK Computer". That is a great move as the album has opened the way for listeners to consider and appreciate all of Radiohead's music to date. 
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Fight Club
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 18:31 |
Well first everyone has to see something to make this kind of judgement. There are two kinds of progressive
1. Progressive more as a sound, bands creating music in the style of Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, and the other artists that established the Progressive genre. There are certain sounds that are associated with being progressive, such as Spock's Beard. They use a great deal of the aspects that contribute to the Progressive sound, but are they truly progressive? Not really.
2. Progressive more of an adjective, regardless of sound. This can be harder for some people to understand, because of the constant comparison to the usual symphonic progressive sound. Artists can be progressive without sounding a lot like any other artists in the Progressive genre. An example is Porcupine Tree, they don't follow the usual sound people expect to come from prog, but nonetheless their music is very progressive.
Radiohead falls into the second category. They don't sound anything like any other band typically associated with prog but still their music is highly progressive. If there are any doubts just think, how many artists sounded like Radiohead before Radiohead?
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sircosick
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 15:21 |
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Well, I'm a proghead, but I'm also a brit-pop lover, so I like Oasis, Blur, Smashing Pumpkins, The Verve... And Radiohead is, by far, the best brit-pop band; but as an art-rock band, it doesn't prevent a special attention by prog reviewers. It is not prog, definitively.
Note: Progheads put more attention on "Kid A"; as a brit-pop lover, I could say "Kid A" is the worst Radiohead album.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 14:38 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
and sometime soon one guy will leave a post exclaiming that THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED!
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Many times. |
Look, by posting this you are only encouraging us. If you've seen it discussed too many times for you, the best thing to do is just go away. |
You go away. |
Well, I do need to get to work, so I think I will!  |
OK
My original quoting of Musicforspeedin was just to oblige him. I should have added a  , I will now.
What is your work..creating Fjords I presume.  |
Yes, only now I'm pining for the fijords. And if you hadn't nailed my feet to the perch, I'd be pushing up the daisys, gone down to join the choir invisible, etc. etc.
And don't forget, the palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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chessman
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 14:35 |
Whether they are prog or not depends on the individual listener.
I say they are experimental. Which doesn't necessarily mean prog.
I have only heard two of their albums, Ok Computer and Kid A.
I thought they were pretty dire actually. Little in the way of strong melody, and the singer's voice put my teeth on edge!
Definitely not for me. In fact, despite the fact I am no Dream Theater fan, I would rather listen to DT anytime than Radiohead.
But they are media darlings, much like U2 and REM, so they will always be popular to those who wish to be seen listening to something good, but who don't have the time or effort to invest in discovering things for themselves.
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ken4musiq
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 11:32 |
aspinosa wrote:
I´ve heard Ok Computer recently because the good reviews but I have to confess it was a disapointment , I expeted more, I will give them another chance but what do you think folks? |
If you keep listening to it, the album will begin to haunt you. I never really considered Pink Floyd as prog rock either. Amnesiac has that one tune on it. Pyramid Song. I think its in 13/8. That song blew everybody away when it first came out. I wnet to see them several years back and it rained and rained. Then when the band was ready to come, out it suddenly stopped. Then they played that song Sit Down, Stand Up, when the section with the line "The raindrops" came up, it suddenly began to drizzle, and then after the song was over, it stopped and never returned . . .
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 08:50 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
and sometime soon one guy will leave a post exclaiming that THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED!
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Many times. |
Look, by posting this you are only encouraging us. If you've seen it discussed too many times for you, the best thing to do is just go away. |
You go away. |
Well, I do need to get to work, so I think I will! |
OK
My original quoting of Musicforspeedin was just to oblige him. I should have added a , I will now.
What is your work..creating Fjords I presume.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 08:43 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
and sometime soon one guy will leave a post exclaiming that THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED!
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Many times. |
Look, by posting this you are only encouraging us. If you've seen it discussed too many times for you, the best thing to do is just go away. |
You go away. |
Well, I do need to get to work, so I think I will!
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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