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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:50 |
sleeper wrote:
Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony. I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.
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You've only heard two Rush albums and that makes you qualified to sum up his career worth?
I am stunned....
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:31 |
I can learn Bruford stuff a lot faster so I guess that makes Peart better.
Also, I rather listen to Peart.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:28 |
Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony.  I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.
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Visitor13
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:25 |
Neither of them is very high on my list, but Peart was high on Buddy Rich's list. So much for getting and deserving credit.
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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:12 |
So how much credit does he garner and how much does he deserve?
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:08 |
Tony R wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
Tony R wrote:
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Peart is overrated! | How is Peart over-rated? |
I just don't think he is as good as Moerlen, Bruford, Collins, Palmer etc. etc. |
"etc. etc."
So one could insert any drummer here could one?
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Well, yes 
Just kidding here Tony, what I meant was that I just don't like Peart as much as some other drummers. I think he get's more credit than he deserves, but that's just my opinion.
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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:01 |
Bj-1 wrote:
Tony R wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
Peart is overrated! | How is Peart over-rated? |
I just don't think he is as good as Moerlen, Bruford, Collins, Palmer etc. etc. |
"etc. etc."
So one could insert any drummer here could one?
What a ridiculous statement....
Why didnt you just say " I think Peart is over-rated because that is what I think.I have no rational argument or facts to back this up,it is just what I think...and what I think is what I beleive.."
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 14:40 |
Tony R wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
Peart is overrated! |
How is Peart over-rated?
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I just don't think he is as good as Moerlen, Bruford, Collins, Palmer etc. etc.
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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 14:20 |
Bj-1 wrote:
Peart is overrated! |
How is Peart over-rated?
From "Drummerworld":
Neil Peart...
Neil Peart is the most popular drummer today. When it comes to voting in Modern Drummer or Drummerworld - Neil Peart is always the No. 1.
Bear in mind that whilst Rush are popular they arent in the top tier in terms of album sales and public perception. Peart manages to be "high-profile" as a drummer despite palying for a singularly unhip band and being Canadian - I am not being flippant here.
If anything Peart is under-rated because he lacks the exposure more "hip" drummers enjoy...
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 14:12 |
Peart is overrated!
Bruford, no question!
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Visitor13
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 14:00 |
In before BaldFriede to say: "Pierre Moerlen"!
Seriously though, my choice is Jack DeJohnette.
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YYZed
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 13:44 |
MajesterX wrote:
Tony R wrote:
YYZed wrote:
Bruford is the better of the two. More technical skill, and a more prolific and influential musician.
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That may be true, but just for once it would be nice for someone to demonstrate how "he has more technical skill" and is "more influential." otherwise it just reads like lazy rhetoric.
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I agree! If you're going to make a point back it up with facts! Haven't you ever written an essay before!?
This is an extremely tough poll for me. Both of them are probably the two best prog drummers in my opinion.
Although Larks Tounges in Aspic parts 1&2 are hard to beat, but I must go with the Professor (Peart).
I think he plays a little bit more agressively than Bill and I just like his style of playing a little bit more.
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As far as influence is concerned, mid 70's king crimson has affected just as many musicians as all of Rush's career. Every rock musician I know has given both about an equal listen. But then with bruford there's also Yes, his late 70's fusion stuff, Earthwork's, 80's and 90's KC. He's everywhere and is at least a subconscious influence on every drummer that listens to him. Like influence, we don't have some sort of way to measure it. I've seen more amazing stuff from Bruford than Peart like playing in different time signatures w/ different limbs, etc. Pardon my laziness.
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 13:42 |
Bill Bruford
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willy
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 13:33 |
I like bruford better for his style, but peart is the better drummer, without question.
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walrus
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 13:33 |
I vote for RINGO STARR
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you and whose army?
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1800iareyay
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 11:42 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Peart is a particularly pert, practiced pounder, it's perfectly apparent.
But Bill Bruford has a broader range, and has been bravely breaching the borders from the start -- he is instantly recognizable, and a true prog pioneer. 
If you don't vote for brother Bill, you're either a too-young metal kid, an idiot, or both! 
It's like choosing the guy from the Flower Kings over Hackett or Howe -- duhhhhh! 
Yes & Crimson blazed a trail -- Rush followed (as best they could). |
That's your opinion, both are amazingly talented musicians and nobody is an idiot for voting for Peart. It's not like people are voting for Ringo over Bruford. Peart is routinely rated one of of, usually THE, greatest drummers of all time. In the end the two are immensely talented, inventive drummers, but I'm voting for Peart simply because he's more enjoyable.
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chessman
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 11:33 |
I think it depends what mood I am in who I like the best. They are both phenomenal drummers. I was going to vote for Bruford, but suddenly changed my mind.So Peart gets my vote. He has done some amazing things. 
Nevertheless, next week I could easily vote for Bruford!
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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 09:55 |
When I listen to Peart's Drum Solo or the intro to "The Weapon" I find it difficult to imagine how someone could be "more technically proficient" - equal,well maybe, but better technically....can't see it.
Who is the superior...well the parameters aren't qualified so the whole poll is pointless.
So it all boils down to whether you prefer Rush to King Crimson and/or Yes....and a great deal of snobbery...
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MajesterX
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 09:44 |
Tony R wrote:
YYZed wrote:
Bruford is the better of the two. More technical skill, and a more prolific and influential musician.
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That may be true, but just for once it would be nice for someone to demonstrate how "he has more technical skill" and is "more influential." otherwise it just reads like lazy rhetoric.
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I agree! If you're going to make a point back it up with facts! Haven't you ever written an essay before!? This is an extremely tough poll for me. Both of them are probably the two best prog drummers in my opinion. Although Larks Tounges in Aspic parts 1&2 are hard to beat, but I must go with the Professor (Peart). I think he plays a little bit more agressively than Bill and I just like his style of playing a little bit more.
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Posted: November 25 2006 at 09:38 |
Bill Bruford for me
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